Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby MacG » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:40 am

A late time of operation, but beautiful. Why not with a black background under the weight data, like the prototype? The re-weight date has it.

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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby rdikken » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:24 am

Hard to tell. Early versions do not have a black background. The artwork of Richard has not, so we will ask him. I think the answer is, it was not a normal thing to do. But again I will ask him.
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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby MacG » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:56 am

For my understanding, the old weight data and the old date were painted over black. Then the current weight dates were painted on it. Black probably because there was no matching red. It is a patch. Earlier versions are running in paint schemes like built. The "CM" stands for the location where the car was weighed/tared. It is also possible that the tare dates are the same as the old. Then it would be perhaps like at your model. :wink:

If instead of "CM 9-79" there would stand the "NEW 4-51" (like at your artwork for this car), then it would be the original color scheme from the delivery/production.

The CB&Q hopper no.172402 was built in June 1962, at the CB&Q shops in Havelock, Nebraska - NEW 6-62. This information was added to the picture at rrpicturearchives.net. Possibly has Richard Brennan a better source.
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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby Richard-B » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:44 am

MacG wrote:A late time of operation, but beautiful. Why not with a black background under the weight data, like the prototype? The re-weight date has it.
The car would have been serviced and possibly re-weighed a number of times over its life. The black 'patch-out' is typical of a re-weigh done on another railroad or at a remote location... who did not have the unusual CB&Q red paint to match... (or were just lazy!). I chose NOT to make the car livery with the 1970's date and the yellow wheel dot, as the earlier date fits into a wider modeling era.

We have come a long way in TT-scale if we are discussing as-built and re-weigh dates !!!!!!!
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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby RodTT » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:43 pm

The late re-weigh date would suit me fine.
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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby j p » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:29 pm

Thank you for the comments.
The missing black patch can be fixed. It does not cost anything extra.
Earlier versions can be made too, without the patches and without the yellow dot.

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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby MacG » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:35 pm

Richard-B wrote:... I chose NOT to make the car livery with the 1970's date and the yellow wheel dot, as the earlier date fits into a wider modeling era. ...

I have seen the difference between your artwork and the model from j p.

It works for me too. Not everyone can read the data at a rolling car. :wink:
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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby Richard-B » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:01 pm

I've sent updated versions of the red CB&Q hopper to JP:
  • c1960s - as built
  • c1970s re-weigh with ACI and wheel dot
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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:04 pm

Richard-B wrote:We have come a long way in TT-scale if we are discussing as-built and re-weigh dates !!!!!!!


^^^^^^ that
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Re: Zeuke-TT, what's new?

Postby j p » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:52 am

MacG wrote:The CB&Q hopper no.172402 was built in June 1962, at the CB&Q shops in Havelock, Nebraska - NEW 6-62. This information was added to the picture at rrpicturearchives.net. Possibly has Richard Brennan a better source.


Cars 172000 - 172499 were built in 1959-1960. Several sources mention that. The builder's photo of 172010 shows BLT.4.60.HV. Could it take them 3 years to build 400 cars?
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