Which railway should I model?..

Which railway should I model?..

Postby Arseny » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:56 pm

Guys, I need your advice.
Maybe, I'll try to built "American" layout.
I like steam locomotives. From the other side, I have some Mini-Things's automobiles and I want to use them.
So, the era will be the middle of the 1950s.

But which railway and which state should I model?..

The starting points are:

1. Locomotives ans wagons:

a) I have the ready-to-run, nice painted Consolidation locomotive, and it is painted as DSS&A.
And a kit of 0-6-0 swithcer, not built and painted yet.

b) I have 2 cabooses, they are painted as NYC and CB&Q

c) I have some boxcars made by Gold Coast, painted as D&RGW and Southern Pacific, and some "old-TT" stuff, painted for different railways.

So, maybe it would a good idea to model Michigan and DSS&A railway, but...

d) I'll got some more steam locomotives soon, and it will be 4-8-2 Mountain and 4-6-2 Pacific!
I tried to find some information and discovered that there were not Mountain locomotives on DSS&A!

Railroads that used Mountains :
Alaska Railroad - 2 Baldwin
Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe - 51 Baldwin
Baltimore & Ohio 2 Baldwin - 42 B&O
Bangor & Aroostook - 10 ALCO
Boston & Maine - 18 Baldwin
Canadian National Railway - 42 CLC 32 MLW
Canadan Pacific Railway - 2 CPR
Central Vermont - 4 ALCO
Central of Georgia - 27 ALCO 5 Baldwin
Chesapeake & Ohio - 8 ALCO 2 Baldwin
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy - 13 BLW 8 Lima
Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific - 62 ALCO
Delaware, Lackawanna & Western - 45 ALCO
Denver & Rio Grande Western - 30 ALCO 10 Baldwin
Florida East Coast - 90 ALCO
Grand Trunk Western - 5 Baldwin
Great Northern - 28 Baldwin 15 LIMA
Illinois Central - 35 ALCO 25 LIMA 76 IC
Lehigh & Hudson River - 3 Baldwin
Lehigh Valley - 6 ALCO
Louisville & Nashville - 22 Baldwin
Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Sainte Marie - 18 ALCO 3 Soo
Missouri Pacific - 33 ALCO
Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis - 5 ALCO 8 Baldwin
New Orleans Great Northern - 3 ALCO
New York Central - 435 ALCO 165 Lima
New York, New Haven & Hartford - 70 ALCO
New York, Ontario & Western - 20 ALCO
Norfolk & Western - 10 ALCO 12 Baldwin 26 N&W
Pennsylvania 225 Baldwin - 50 LIMA 26 PRR
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac - 4 ALCO
Rutland - 4 ALCO
St. Louis - San Francisco - 30 Baldwin 34 SLSF
Seaboard Air Line - 25 ALCO 36 Baldwin
Southern Pacific - 34 ALCO 49 SP
Southern - 58 Baldwin
Tennessee Central - 4 ALCO
Texas & Pacific - 5 ALCO 5 Baldwin
Union Pacific - 60 ALCO
Wabash - 25 Baldwin
Western Pacific - 10 ex FEC
Western Railway of Alabama - 2 ALCO

So, what railway should I model to use my Mountain as well as Consolisation and Pacific?
(I have no passenger trains, so I'll use Mountain for freight trains, and Pacific, maybe, too...)


2. Another problem are the buildings. I need american buildings to build "TTsize America", but there are very few american buildings available.
But there are a lot of Auhagen (or old Vero) buildings available.
What is your opinion: Are there any states/cities in the US that I can model using such German-style buildings? (wooden or brick)? I wonder to know, if such architecture is/was used somewhere in US?

Or, maybe, I can use some H0- or N-scale buildings? Did anybody of you use any buildings from different scales?
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby Marquette » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:22 pm

Regarding the locomotives: Soo (Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Saint Marie) would be the natural choice, I think: Soo Line controlled the DSS&A, so a Soo locomotive could have shown up on a DSS&A train (or vice versa).

The cabooses: my best advice? Repaint them to DSS&A or Soo line.

Boxcars: Use them - as I explained boxcars got all over the place. You'd only need the one D&RGW, but SP is one that you can use a couple of.

Buildings: This is a toughie.

Auhagen buildings, some of them MAY be useful, like any multi-floor old buildings, if you modify them to make a flat roof; many of their kits can be useful with some changes made - but none of them would work for a scene in North America.

For my part, I may get some kits for residential houses, maybe one or two of the BTS kits, but for the most part, I'll be scratchbuilding buildings for the layout - especially railway stations and other railway-owned buildings: I want these to be correct for the place I'm modelling, as my plan is to build representations of real places as accurately as possible. Of course there will be compression to save space and other compromises, but my goal is to have scenes that someone who comes from that area will recognise and say "yeah, that looks right".

Some HO and N scale kits might work, especially for things like factories or oil refineries. The most important thing, though, is you have to change the size of the doors! If they are too big or too small, it will make the whole building look wrong...
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby Arseny » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:37 pm

Regarding the locomotives: Soo (Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Saint Marie) would be the natural choice, I think: Soo Line controlled the DSS&A, so a Soo locomotive could have shown up on a DSS&A train (or vice versa).


Nice idea, thank you.
Did Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Saint Marie control the DSS&A before 1961, in 1950s? If so, I think it would be a good choice.

I'll try to repaint at least 1 caboose... :) :think:
Or maybe it will be the "second-hand" caboose bought from NYC, as you suggested me in the previous message... ;)

As for Auhagen, I do not want to build residential houses, only industrial and railway buildings. I hoped to use brick houses... :(
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby Marquette » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:45 pm

Some of the Auhagen industrial buildings may be useful with some changes - does Auhagen have an online catalogue? I could look and maybe make some suggestions.

Caboose: repaint the CB&Q one. I'll dig and see if I can get you some DSS&A or Soo Line caboose photos from the 1950s.

Soo controlled the DSS&A by 1953, I think already as early as 1942, so you're good on that front. :)
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby Arseny » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:42 am

Marquette wrote:Some of the Auhagen industrial buildings may be useful with some changes - does Auhagen have an online catalogue? I could look and maybe make some suggestions.


Yes, but I do not know German...

http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82


For example, I already own:

http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=33&xtc_pid=21455
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=33&xtc_pid=21481
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=38&xtc_pid=21472
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=38&xtc_pid=21473
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=38&xtc_pid=21469
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=39&xtc_pid=21459
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=43&xtc_pid=21489
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=45&xtc_pid=21546
(only the railway station)
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=23&xtc_page=2&xtc_pid=21413
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=23&xtc_page=2&xtc_pid=21435
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=23&xtc_page=2&xtc_pid=21439
http://auhagen.de/inhalt/cms/front_content.php?idcat=82&idart=96&xtc_catid=23&xtc_page=3&xtc_pid=21452


I am going to buy some american TT scale buildings, like this:
http://www.master-creations.com/1435.htm
http://www.btsrr.com/bts7502.htm

- but it is not enough...

Do you have some of B.T.S. buildings? If yes, what is your opinion?
There are a lot of nice buildings, but they are H0...
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:46 am

On the subject of buildings, maybe someone can model a few american ones and see what the price would end up being through Shapeways. I'd love to but already have a million projects going on. Or it maybe easy to make stuff out of printer paper and balsa wood?

Also, you're obviously very interested in cars and trucks. Maybe model the scenery around an automotive plant? Like a truck plant so you can have a full parking lot of "new" ones.
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby Marquette » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:05 am

Hmmm, I've been long meaning to learn how to do those 3D drawings... perhaps something small like a railway oil shed or similar could get me started in it. I'll poke around sometime soon...
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby Arseny » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:11 am

Marquette wrote:Caboose: repaint the CB&Q one. I'll dig and see if I can get you some DSS&A or Soo Line caboose photos from the 1950s.


Ok, I'll wait for photos.

Here is my CB&Q caboose, I hope it will not be difficult to repaint it:

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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:25 am

Marquette wrote:Hmmm, I've been long meaning to learn how to do those 3D drawings... perhaps something small like a railway oil shed or similar could get me started in it. I'll poke around sometime soon...


It's the perfect way to start - basically a cube. Ask if you need help.
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Re: Which railway should I model?..

Postby Arseny » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:24 am

Marquette wrote:Regarding the locomotives: Soo (Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Saint Marie) would be the natural choice, I think: Soo Line controlled the DSS&A, so a Soo locomotive could have shown up on a DSS&A train (or vice versa).


And what about DSS&A locomotives on the Soo Line railroad?

I've read a little about Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste. Marie Railroad - I am sure it's a great choice, thank you!
To say more, there were a lot of ethnic Germans in North Dakota and Wisconsin and Minnesota, so I think I can use German-style buildings, can I?
Also there are a lot of oil in North Dakota - so I can use oil-industry buildings, and if I'll take Wisconsin - I have a lot of cow figures and some agrucultural technic. ;)

What is your opinion - can I use H0-scale decals for TT wagons and/or cabooses?
I've found some decals of DSS&A and SOO.

http://store.sooline.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=o3edstdtm22jmesf6crp3vvk64
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