What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC circuit

What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC circuit

Postby Rich1853 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:59 pm

I did a search on Tilligs web site and all I found were these power clips p/n 85506. Some sites list them as HO. Are these correct for Tillig flex track with concrete sleepers p/n 83134. If not what does everybody use, short of direct soldering.
Also for R396 R31 30 degree curves all I see is p/n 86355 but no mention of what type of sleepers they have. Do they make that curve with concrete. Can I paint the sleepers to look like concrete, has anybody has.
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Edit: added DC in subject block
speaking of a separate DC circuit, would I need a filter like the one I have on my start set bedding track. Is there a terminal track with this for these type of track and what are the part numbers.
Another question, what is the filter used for?
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track circui

Postby Rich1853 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:00 pm

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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby MacG » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:27 am

The power clips are the right ones. The rail is used for TT and HO.

I prefer the direct soldering of the wire at the rail bottom. It's easy and a stable connection. I do the track work in the following way:
  • place the flex track on its place at the layout
  • align the sleepers
  • mark between the sleepers the two holes for the wires (or more, I cut 1m rail in 2 or 3 pieces after gluing)
  • mark at the same spots the rails
  • remove the flex track from the layout
  • at the marked solder spots, move the sleepers sidewards for more solder space
  • grind the rail bottom
  • solder L-shaped tinned wires at the rails (the wires come between the rails, close to the rail foot and the L-shaped part points to the outside)
  • cut the overstand of the wires
  • place the flex track at the layout
  • align the sleepers
  • glue it on

There are no concrete sleepers at R396 R31 30 degree curves. In general, there are no fixed curves with concrete sleepers from Tillig. Use the concrete flex track p/n 83134 also for curves.

Tillig p/n 86355 is track bedding (ballast). I don't know if they will fit on concrete flex track. Because of the different sleeper distance.

The filter is a capacitor. It's on the rails in case there's no capacitor on the locomotive engine. For me, it works fine without the capacitor at the rails if I run DC.
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby Arseny » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:00 am

I believe, the filter (capacitor) is used to eliminate radio Interference from your locomotives. If you don't care about that, you can use the power without any filters, it will work ok.

As concerns power clips - they are suitable both for TT and H0, don't panic. :)
But you can also simply solder the wires to the rails, I prefer this way.

Also, you can take Tillig 83149 or 83143 power tracks, remove and use power clip separately. But I am not sure if it will work with concrete ties.
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby MacG » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:53 am

The power connectors are also sold separately as Tillig 08402 and 08403. For soldering under the rails.
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby Arseny » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:57 am

Good idea. Didn't know about it

But are they used for soldering? I was sure they were designed for use without soldering. Simply insert and go...
Was I wrong?
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby Rich1853 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:50 pm

Well I ordered from my favorite on line model train shop Modellbahnshop-lippe.com some samples (1 piece) of part numbers mention above (except for 08403 and 83149 which is for DCC). Also all the ballast and ballisted bedding in light gray (Tillig, Auhagen, Noch), a swing roof and flat stake car for my Bahnbau-Gleisbau maintenance train I'm putting together, also some concrete sleepers for a load. My 1:120 scale crane arrived by air mail from Japan today and with the Berkshire Junction E Z Line I got earlier in the week will keep me busy with the rigging.
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby MacG » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:39 pm

Arseny wrote:... Was I wrong?


The soldering was only a guess from me. As I saw the picture.

@Rich1853: It is a good find this crane. But he needs an etched boom. :wink: Would the crane be like the product picture on the package, it would be great.
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby Arseny » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:39 am

BTW, there are a lot of Caterpillar dozers, graders. loaders etc. on Ebay, declared as 1:125.
If the scale is true, they could be useful for TT.
But I did not buy any (they are quite expensive) so I can not guarantee the scale.
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Re: What to use to power a seperate Tillig flex track DC cir

Postby Rich1853 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:00 am

Yes i know, I bought a few but you also have look up the prototype model to verify the size, there is a line of CAT "Metal Machines" that actually are open pit mining equipment, e.g. the 390D excavator cab height is about 18 feet from the ground that is 1.8 inches tall, (not countin the boom) way to big for something you see on a normal road construction project. No waste, my Godson going to be three next month so he will have fun.
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