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What's the point?

Postby ConducTTor » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:40 am

In the past several months I've spent a TON of time doing CAD work. The point of course is to run the trains! Here's a little American TT (with un-detailed and unpainted cars).

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Re: What's the point?

Postby anotherTTnut » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:26 pm

You are absolutely right, don’t get lost in all the details and work around the rolling stock....letting all those beautiful models run, that`s what’s all about! I love how conveniently the scale size appears on one of the Tillig boxes at around 36 seconds, was that intended? :lol:
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Re: What's the point?

Postby AstroGoat760 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:29 pm

Not bad, just think how many of those cars were not around months ago...
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Re: What's the point?

Postby ConducTTor » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:32 pm

anotherTTnut wrote:I love how conveniently the scale size appears on one of the Tillig boxes at around 36 seconds, was that intended? :lol:


Ha! I didn't even notice that - it was a complete accident :dance:
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Re: What's the point?

Postby ConducTTor » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:36 pm

AngrySailor302 wrote:Not bad, just think how many of those cars were not around months ago...


Seriously dude. A toast to rapid prototyping!
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Re: What's the point?

Postby Tom Dempsey » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:19 pm

I like the F, what's it's lineage?
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Re: What's the point?

Postby ConducTTor » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:34 pm

It's the Tillig "FP7" (no longer sold). What exactly it is has been a topic of some discussion. Some say it's an F7, some FP7, some say it's not prototypical.
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Re: What's the point?

Postby scaro » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:01 am

it's an F9. it's reasonably prototypical for that.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ri/ri4167abp.jpg

an F7 would not have the louvre ahead of the first porthole- that's about the only reliable spotting feature for an F9.

an FP7 would be 4' longer with the extra length between the front truck and fuel tank.

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Postby ConducTTor » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:12 am

Thanks Ben, that's the best evidence I've seen so far.
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Re: What's the point?

Postby scaro » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:53 pm

the rather childish (i think) rationale for choosing which model to produce in the 'train set era' of the 60s and 70s was often to choose the loco that sounded most powerful, modern or distinctive, as opposed to the most common. at the time the real RRs were engaged in a horsepower race, and the model producers followed suit. the higher the model number, the more modern or powerful it sounded.

so in TT you saw a DD35 shell ... when a GP35 would have been a heck of a lot more use.

in HO tyco came up with a C430 even though only 16 of the real thing were made -a C424 /C425 would have been a lot more use (281 made).

N had an SD45 and a U36B for the same reason. in retrospect, an SD40 or U30B may have been more use, for modelling more roads, but that didn't come into it.

as for F9s, i am not surprised rokal chose the F9 (the ancestor of the tillig unit).

early N had several things called 'F9s' which weren't - they were usually F7s, for example minitrix's one which seems (mostly) to have been patterned after the rokal TT unit. a few were real F9s, ie, bachmann & atlas, but whichever way, it seemed important for marketing reasons to use the highest number.

for euro producers like arnold, it seemed advisable to make an FP9, not only did it sound good and modern, it enabled them to use an existing euro mechanism - FP7 or FP9 are both 4' longer than F7 /F9 to create room for train heating equipment.

...despite the fact that only 4 FP9s were built for US roads. canada had the lion's share, and even saudi arabia had more!
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