What is this?

Re: What is this?

Postby Richard-B » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:25 pm

railtwister wrote:I'm not sure that hand beaten accurately describes the panels, perhaps hand formed would be better,
Bill... exactly right, as these photos show.
  • 1) Lots of filler
  • 2) Lots of grinding
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F-units and Geeps
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Re: What is this?

Postby scaro » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:47 am

I am somewhat surprised that they didn't nix the production of F units quicker, with these kinds of production techniques. Crews hated them on the road, anyway.

I'm coming to hate them myself, if I'm honest. :wink:

... they were not often seen on the prototypes for the kind of shelf switching layouts I like anyway, if the RR involved had any choice in the matter.
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Re: What is this?

Postby railtwister » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:11 am

scaro wrote:I am somewhat surprised that they didn't nix the production of F units quicker, with these kinds of production techniques. Crews hated them on the road, anyway.

I'm coming to hate them myself, if I'm honest. :wink:

... they were not often seen on the prototypes for the kind of shelf switching layouts I like anyway, if the RR involved had any choice in the matter.


Not being well suited for switching is why the EMD BL-2's were introduced, which were basically a modified F unit with the body "notched" for more visibility. Same basic trussed frame and enclosed engine area, which was still a pain for maintenance, so that led to the GP designs that became the standard of the industry.

Still, the F-unit became the symbol for a diesel locomotive, and even today, when you mention those words, the first mental image is likely to be an F-unit, at least if you were born before the sixties...

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Re: What is this?

Postby Rob M » Thu May 21, 2015 12:23 pm

Ok then, how does this one look? It has flat windshields (couldn't modify them correctly on the other model) and a narrower post between them.
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Re: What is this?

Postby areibel » Thu May 21, 2015 12:37 pm

Just let me know when you're taking orders!
Seriously, it looks good. The "common" F unit mistakes seem to be either having the windows tilted back at less of an angle (too vertical), having the two windshield panels flat where they meet the roof (so you get a sharp ridge instead of a smooth contour onto the roof) and having the roof too high, so the windows look too small. I think you've got that one pretty close!
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Re: What is this?

Postby Richard-B » Thu May 21, 2015 12:56 pm

Rob M wrote:Ok then, how does this one look?
GREAT!!!
Except some of us are allergic to Armour Yellow...
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Re: What is this?

Postby j p » Thu May 21, 2015 1:06 pm

Richard-B wrote:
Rob M wrote:Ok then, how does this one look?
GREAT!!!
Except some of us are allergic to Armour Yellow...


It takes 1 minute to fix that problem
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Re: What is this?

Postby Rob M » Thu May 21, 2015 1:10 pm

areibel wrote:Just let me know when you're taking orders!

:lol: If half of my ideas make to market you and I might need to set up a payment plan.

Richard-B wrote:GREAT!!!
Except some of us are allergic to Armour Yellow...

If (a big IF) I pull this off they will only be available undecorated. The plan is to make an ABBA set of F7's to go along with the Super Chief passenger car set. The biggest thing that has been holding me back is the nose on the A units. All the rest should be fairly easy. Time consuming, but easy.
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Re: What is this?

Postby ConducTTor » Thu May 21, 2015 3:05 pm

Rob are you using the pro version of sketchup?
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Re: What is this?

Postby Rob M » Thu May 21, 2015 3:09 pm

ConducTTor wrote:Rob are you using the pro version of sketchup?

No, just the regular version 8.
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