Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

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To fasten the rail - seems to me the pins you made would work just fine through the sleepers.
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Pins can be cut from music wire, it's a bit less expensive than pins and also you can get a smaller diameter.

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I've heard of guys making rail spikes from staples.

They'd take a row of staples and use a cut-off disk in a Dremel to cut a bunch at a time.
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If you can find staples that are long enough.

Or you can go to a printing supply and see if you can get a spool of staple wire and cut/bend individual spikes.

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Thanks,

Staples come in hundreds of sizes.

Go to a Staples and view a variety of staples. :grin:
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I think the phosphor bronze wire will be too flexible for this application, but, I've never tried it so I'll be awaiting your report.

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For comparison.
On the left is a standard staple that I clipped.

Very close in size with the small Micro Engineering spike in the middle.

On the right is a Perfect HO spike which is thicker.

There's also a bit of code 55 rail to show relative size.
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TinGoat wrote:For comparison.
On the left is a standard staple that I clipped.

Very close in size with the small Micro Engineering spike in the middle.

On the right is a Perfect HO spike which is thicker.
Micro Engineering also makes #30-108 Micro spikes, which are 3/16" long, 3/4 the length of the Small spikes, which are 1/4", and presumably also a bit thinner. Has anybody used these? Are they long enough to get a secure grip?
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More spike stuff...

I think that there are several factors.

Length

Thickness

Head

Ties, roadbed and sub-roadbed.

The length will determine if you are just spiking the tie or penetrating through to the roadbed or even into the sub-roadbed. The ties themselves don't usually hold the spikes very well and you need to penetrate the roadbed.

Cork, Homasote or pine roadbed will hold spikes well.

There's the slower process of pre-drilling all of the spike holes but it may save you the aggravation of bending the spikes.

A thick spike will likely crack and split the ties unless you pre-drill all the holes.

For me, personally, the most objectionable quality of a spike is the size of the head.

The Micro Engineering Small Spikes that I have been using are fine for On30 Code 83 rail.

But I think they are too big for TT on code 70 or code 55 rail.

I wouldn't want the spikes to be any shorter, but I want the heads to be smaller.
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Looks good Bernd! I remember that article, and I remember at the time thinking how much the finished results look like some of the road cuts on the interstates here in PA. The only thing I was going to add were some vertical lines to simulate the drill holes from blasting, a lot of them are still visible.

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As critique, I think that you shouldn't have used the coat of plaster. It made something sharp and jagged look smooth and worn.

Perhaps a coat of thick primer paint instead of plaster.

Also, all of the stratification is flat and level. You need to get some undulations. Maybe just a few degrees from level. //// instead of _-_-__----

Lastly, the base colour is great but you need to add horizontal streaks of lighter and darker tones and then some weathering with vertical streaks.
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