Czechia - Ceske Drahy

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Czechia - Ceske Drahy

CD is another railway that's relatively easy to model in TT scale, given the broad range available either RTR or in kit form from various Czech manufacturers.

Diesel locomotives
702 (Deak BN120 - RTR)
710 (Tillig T334.0)
742 (Modely TT)
743 (Modely TT)
749 (Modely TT)
751 (Modely TT)
752 (Modely TT)
753.7 (Modely TT)
754 (Modely TT)
755 (Modely TT)
781 (Tillig DR V200/120 - RTR)

Electric locomotives
140 (BTTB E499.0)
141 (? E499.1)
150 (Rubikon CD 150/151/350/351)
151 (Rubikon CD 150/151/350/351)
162 (Rubikon CD 162/163/362/363)
163 (Rubikon CD 162/163/362/363)
350 (Rubikon CD 150/151/350/351)
351 (Rubikon CD 150/151/350/351)
362 (Rubikon CD 162/163/362/363)
363 (Rubikon CD 162/163/362/363)

Trainsets & railcars
810 (Rubikon M152)
820 (Modely TT)
830 (Modely TT)
850 (Modely TT)
851 (Modely TT)

Passenger and freight cars
A considerable number of passenger and freight cars are available from quite a number of manufacturers.
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Recently, some friends and I were in the Ore Mountains. There I could take some photos with the camera of my friend.
(My own one is damaged and I lack the money to repair it or buy a new one.)
Few hours ago I got the files:

810 528-0, Bdtax783 50 54 24-29 533-3 and 810 411-9 of ČD during a layover in Moldava v Krušných Horách on August 6, 2012.
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And here they are departing Moldava for Most about an hour after the picture above was made.
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These railbuses can be modelled using Rubikon's M152.
See also: http://www.ttnut.com/rubikon-m152-motor ... -t324.html
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Christtking wrote:
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To all: Here are some photos of some RTR 4 axle tank wagons (cisterns) (former Zeuke/BTTB), limited editions manufactured by Tillig for specialised shops in Czeck Republic only (?). Not found in any Tillig catalog. These articles are not produced anymore and are collectors' items.
I would not be too excited about them. Those cars have no prototype. Maybe Paramo rafinery had some similar tank cars, but definitely not these more than 60 years old ex-DRG tankcars. (CSD used such tankcars until 1960's though, so Zeuke's model is correct)
You can find many more "limited edition collector items" - as dozens of brewery reefer cars, some of them completely crazy. E.g. reefer used until 1950 with a beer billboard of a brand used only after 1995... :lol:

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I don't know what it's like in America; but here in Europe it's commonplace to sell pure advertizement models.
Especially frequently used are reefers with beer ad. They have a lot of fans. And many collectors only care about those beer cars. Other types—like tank cars—are less often used for this pourpose but do also have enough fans.
These advertizement cars are simply not supposed to be prototypical.
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The "Opat" car has no prototype either.
No breweries in Czech use their own reefers, or any reefers at all. All beer is distributed by trucks.
There were very few exceptions. Some of the largest breweries shipped their beer to Sweden in reefers. Not very often. And those were not brewery reefers.
Any CD brewery reefer is a fake made for "beer enthusiasts".
The "Chodovar" containers are also fake, but the flat car should be OK.

I have a kit for AB Budweiser beer 36' reefer from 1930's. That was not a fake, but the reefer book said that the paint scheme was not used for a long time because for some reason the beer was disappearing from the reefers in that paint scheme. So neutral paint schemes were used instead, without the brewery name on them. And that was in 1930s.

Even here in Denmark, Carlsberg breweries do not use their logo on their beer trains Fredericia - Hoeje Taastrup.

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Some comments about the recent three posts:

All these images show GDR-made passenger cars delivered to Czechoslovakia. Unfortunately, my information is limited to the time of delivery. I absolutely don't know how these cars were split up between Czech Republic and Slovakia. And I'm also not up-to-date concerning the liveries of that time.


The first one of these three posts shows double-decker coaches made by Waggonbau Görlitz (WG) in 1976. 50 Units of them were made for Czechoslovakia. I'm not sure concerning the livery but TT-scale models of this type of car are available.


The next post shows various versions of Y-type cars.
First, second and third images are second-class coaches. 493 units of these cars were made by Waggonbau Bautzen (WB) from 1965 through 1972 for Czechoslovakia. Their livery was green.
Those Y-type coaches are available in TT scale.

On the fourth picture, you can see a second-class couchette coach. Waggonbau Bautzen (WB) delivered 97 units of them in three batches from 1967 through 1972. I don't know if there were differences between the various batches. They were all delivered in green standard livery.
I don't know if also the minor details of the available TT-scale models fit this type of car. Except for the arrangement of roof top mountings, the prototypes of these cars were externally identical to the regular Y-type second-class coaches.

Information about the sleeping car on the fifth photo is given here.


The most recent post shows:
A Y-type sleeping car taken out of a series for Soviet Union. Here you can find closer information.

On the second image, you can see a Y/B70-type couchette coach. 210 units of them were delivered by Waggonbau Bautzen (WB) in 4 batches from 1975 through 1984. While the last two batches were identical, the other batches had different arrangements of ventilation housings on the roof. Initially, they were delivered in green and kept to this color until the end of Czechoslovakia. Only the last batch (60 units) was delivered in blue.
TT-scale models are available. But I don't know if they match the arrangement of roof top mountings of one of these batches.

And finally, the most recent image shows one of the Y-type dining cars delivered to Czechoslovakia. It's also described here.
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I just saw an extensive collection of freight car kits from SDV Model (online), a Czech company, how are those for being true to prototype? John

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Here is a link to SDV.
http://www.sdvmodel.cz/index.php?option ... =4&lang=en

Their models are good for people interested in Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, and Slovakia. Some of the models can be used also for DR + DB. The containers are suitable for any container company.
The only issues are with their rather coarse coupler holder (I would recommend to use Peho instead) and the wheels made of plastics (I would recommend metal wheels).
Their freight cars are much closer to Czech/Czechoslovak prototypes than any Tillig model.
If I had time to assemble and paint those...

Here is a link to an automatic translation of a review of one of the kits:
https://translate.google.dk/translate?h ... firmy-sdv/
And one more, with detailed instructions.
https://translate.google.dk/translate?h ... .cz/39049&
Please note that you have to use your imagination to understand this automatically translated text.

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Well that BMP-1 could be a flat car load for a US layout after 1965 or so, under the assumption that the Israelis captured one from Syria or Egypt and sent it to the US...
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