Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by ctxmf74 » Mon May 09, 2016 2:20 pm

"That said... I don't currently see the trucks on the Lok-n-Roll 'Spare Parts' page"

It will probably take a bit of time for them to sort out what they've got and how to market it. The postage from Europe is going to be more than from Coos Bay so our delivered cost will likely rise no matter how they price them. Meanwhile I'd like to find some shapeways or molded plastic roller bearing trucks that would accept HP wheels sets for my more modern cars if anyone knows a source for such an item?....DaveB

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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by Richard-B » Mon May 09, 2016 2:27 pm

ctxmf74 wrote: I'd like to find some shapeways or molded plastic roller bearing trucks that would accept HP wheels sets for my more modern cars if anyone knows a source for such an item?...
Like those from our esteemed list owner??? ...but not sure about the HP wheel sets.
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/ttnut
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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by ctxmf74 » Mon May 09, 2016 2:38 pm

"Like those from our esteemed list owner??? ...but not sure about the HP wheel sets."

Yeah, I think they are designed for Tillig axles but I guess I should order some and see if I can make HP wheel sets work in them. I have a few modern era kits that will eventually need trucks ......DaveB

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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by Richard-B » Mon May 09, 2016 2:53 pm

ctxmf74 wrote:I should order some and see if I can make HP wheel sets work in them.
"Somebody..." [Who? - brain death] makes small plastic bearing inserts intended for metal sideframes...
These might be useful for adjusting the axle bearing surface in or out.

A Reboxx tool is a must-have: http://www.reboxx.com/Tools.htm
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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by areibel » Mon May 09, 2016 7:42 pm

The HP wheelsets will fit in the ConducTTor's trucks with only a little modification. The HP's have blunt axles instead of conical points, so you need to either deepen the pockets a bit (I used a 3/64" bit, I'm sure there's a number drill that's close) or file the ends of the axles off a bit.
I bought some of these-http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kadee-HOn3-scal ... F-NO9e5FdQ
The wheels look great, but the axles can't be regauged easily. I think I can cut that axles and use a small piece of tubing to spread them out to TT. It's too bad we couldn't talk Kadee into making one simple mold for a TT axle for these same wheels.
And that Reboxx tool, can it be narrowed enough for TT? I haven't ever seen one, but I wondered if it's one piece or if it comes apart and could be narrowed?

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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by Richard-B » Mon May 09, 2016 9:36 pm

areibel wrote:And that Reboxx tool, can it be narrowed enough for TT? I haven't ever seen one, but I wondered if it's one piece or if it comes apart and could be narrowed?
Oh..
I used it on trucks that come apart... You would need to twist the solid ones considerably to make it work...
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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by ctxmf74 » Tue May 10, 2016 12:28 am

"The HP wheelsets will fit in the ConducTTor's trucks with only a little modification. The HP's have blunt axles instead of conical points, so you need to either deepen the pockets a bit or file the end of the axles"

Thanks for confirming that they will work, I don't mind drilling the journals out a bit. ....DaveB

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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by areibel » Tue May 10, 2016 11:58 am

LOL! You're going to quit hanging around here, it just keeps making more work for you!

Like I said, I've never held one of the Reboxx tools in my hand. I wasn't sure if it was a single piece or it it would thread in or out of the center section so you could crank it in to get inside a one piece truck (like most of the TT ones!). Even a half reamer that would do one side at a time would be a help, the pockets are pretty well marked so you should be able to keep the axles parallel.

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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by ctxmf74 » Tue May 10, 2016 1:44 pm

"Even a half reamer that would do one side at a time would be a help, the pockets are pretty well marked so you should be able to keep the axles parallel."

It might be possible to saw a ReBoxx reamer in half for use in TT scale trucks. They have a plastic center piece but the metal might run all the way across inside the plastic. ....DaveB

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Re: Bettendorf trucks for Hopper Car

Post by ctxmf74 » Tue May 10, 2016 5:54 pm

"If the truck is one piece how would you get the axle inserted?"

I think that refers to plastic one piece trucks where there is enough flex in the side frames to install the wheel sets. Metal trucks must either twist enough or be able to dis-assemble to add the wheel sets ....DaveB

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