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Re: Whitcomb 65T centre cab

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:39 am
by MacG
How many different cabs were built? Here with a sloping side wall.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5841299

Re: Whitcomb 65T centre cab

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:44 pm
by TiTan downunder
I think the Hocking Valley units were Ex ACL - note the front end grills

Ian

Re: Whitcomb 65T centre cab

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:39 pm
by Bigelov
I have done a lot of searching for info on Whitcombs but haven't found much text written about the variations/changes over time. If anyone knows of a good source, do speak up!

The forum thread on MRH I mentioned has a decent bit of info from member Koala Creek.
https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/piko-anno ... o-12217379

I am not sure of the 65t story, but I think it goes something like this:
Unsure of the 65t origin, the earliest I have found is a batch made for use in North African campaign. Straight side hoods and high cabs (65-DE-14). They were actually run by a New Zealand Railway Operating Company. Some of these that ended up in Italy and were taken into service post war as the Italian Ne 120 loco https://www.goticatoscana.eu/en/the-whi ... y-service/
Next is the reduced loading gauge design for use in the European Theatre with sloped hoods and slope sided cabs (65-DE-19a). These were used by the Netherlands as the NS 2000 class https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS_2000_( ... ocomotief) This is the version of the Piko HO model.
I am sure there was another batch made to US loading gauge for use in the US. Post war Whitcomb rebuilt some with flat side cabs as the 70-DE-26. Modifications were made to the locos over the years, such as the louvered front and side skirts (sheet metal covering the air and fuel tanks) were often removed.

Koala Creek, in his MRH post, states that they were actually 73ton. I am not sure when the 65t was stopped being produced, but later there are 70, 75 and 80 ton versions that are all clearly connected (maybe to represent the actual weight more accurately?). Some of the 80t were short wheel base (as were some 65t), but many were longer (similar to the 65t) with tall cabs and straight side hoods with heavier bogies.

This website has pages on 65t and 70-100t (as well as pages on smaller engines) showing variations and designations with examples from different railroad companies: http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel134.html

You could say the model I am working on is an (early?) post war version.

Re: Whitcomb 65T centre cab

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:13 am
by Bigelov
I have been slack recently,..

I have finally printed a complete Whitcomb body and it came out well. The detail doesn't have a huge amount of depth, so thin coats of paint are needed.
Whitcomb body.JPG
Unfortunately the other side was major print fail, so this is for the scrap heap - and time to buy a new printer.
Tanks and Bogies have been printed and seem to work well, but need post printing clean up and maybe some light revisions (read: strengthening/thickening some bits).

So, slow progress!

Re: Whitcomb 65T centre cab

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:04 pm
by ConducTTor
The side in the picture looks great though.