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Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:58 pm
by TheKnighTT
Tillig BR50 and BR52 use the same chassis, yes. The Tillig BR38 was designed to use the Wannentender of BR52. But I don't know if it's possible to use BR38 tenders directly on the BR50/52 chassis.
Two different tenders were used on the R3b and R3c, but I don't know if the short tenders were only used in yard service.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:03 pm
by Marquette
I have a hunch that the short tenders weren't used out on the mains, but I'll look around. I'll also see if I can't find a drawing of those, to see how they compare to the BR50/52 tenders.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:22 am
by MacG
Marquette wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:17 pm How would you tackle powering the wheels of what are essentially freight car trucks?
Either you try to continue using the tender from Tillig and possibly stretch it or you look for powered trucks that have the appropriate axle spacing. For example, from the Tillig Desiro with about 16mm.

Extending a tender could be difficult since Tillig doesn't use bogies in the actual sense. They can only be rotated a little or not at all.
TheKnighTT wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:58 pm... But I don't know if it's possible to use BR38 tenders directly on the BR50/52 chassis. ...
This doesn't fit directly because the BR 38 has the decoder in the locomotive. But it should be no problem to install everything in the tender and attach a pushrod between tender and locomotive.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:58 am
by TheKnighTT
If you only need the engine parts it´s probably cheapest to just order parts from Tillig for the CSD 555 (Tillig 02283)
BR52/Class 555 diagram and partshttps://www.tillig.com/dateien/Produkte ... _01_27.pdf

All available parts: https://www.tillig.com/dateien/Unterneh ... %20UVP.pdf

I didn´t check if they´re all available.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 4:15 am
by TheKnighTT
Good news everyone, the resident Canadian aquired some CAD-drawings for CP steam locomotives to use with 3D-printing. He is looking forward to resize them for N scale and try some German locomotive chassis. He is willing to try TT scale as well. He's probably starting with a Tenwheeler based on the BR38 chassis.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 3:29 am
by Marquette
TheKnighTT wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 4:15 am Good news everyone, the resident Canadian aquired some CAD-drawings for CP steam locomotives to use with 3D-printing. He is looking forward to resize them for N scale and try some German locomotive chassis. He is willing to try TT scale as well. He's probably starting with a Tenwheeler based on the BR38 chassis.
Can you be a little more specific, please? BR38 - BR38.2? Which CP class? By my math, only the C2a, C3a, D3l, D4b/g, D5a, D8a, E1a, E2a/c/d/e/f, and E3a are broadly close enough to fit the 38.2's dimensions.

A D4g would be fantastic as they were found all over Canada and the last ones weren't retired from service until 1966.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 5:09 am
by TheKnighTT
Sorry, I meant the DRG class 38.10-40.

He's modeling the Kettle Valley Railway in N scale, his brother is modeling it in H0 scale and they are looking for suitable prototypes for the region. We have to find out what is possible in combining printed boiler and cabs and chassis.

I'll keep y'all posted on the project, but there's nothing to show yet.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 7:08 am
by MacG
The D4g could fit the chassis of the BR38. A drawing of a Canadian Pacific Class D4g can be found in the May 1981 Mainline Modeler. Unfortunately, I do not have this issue.

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 11:14 am
by Marquette
TheKnighTT wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 5:09 am Sorry, I meant the DRG class 38.10-40.

He's modeling the Kettle Valley Railway in N scale, his brother is modeling it in H0 scale and they are looking for suitable prototypes for the region. We have to find out what is possible in combining printed boiler and cabs and chassis.

I'll keep y'all posted on the project, but there's nothing to show yet.
Oh well then that's perfect, if he makes this happen in TT I want one because British Columbia. :)

Re: Canadian steamers from German models...

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:09 pm
by areibel
MacG wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 7:08 am The D4g could fit the chassis of the BR38. A drawing of a Canadian Pacific Class D4g can be found in the May 1981 Mainline Modeler. Unfortunately, I do not have this issue.
I have that issue, if anyone would like a scan of the article let me know!