Modist CSD Halberstadt, Ep.IV, 3 Wagon Set, 210195

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Modist CSD Halberstadt, Ep.IV, 3 Wagon Set, 210195

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This wagon set was offered as a limited edition from Modist Modellbahndistribution and was also distributed by Tillig as article number 210195. The set consists of two second class and one first class wagons which feature different car numbering in CSD, 90's era (end of communism before Czechoslovakia split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia) colour scheme.

Overall the models have a very good appearance. The paint is opaque and has crisp edges with an eggshell finish. The molded plastic is also sharp. A couple of detail parts are included to be be installed on the wheel trucks. Interior is detailed and provision for the installation of lighting is made. Close couplers bring the car diaphragms within 0.5 mm of each other and are of the modern Tillig type. Weight is very good. Rolling friction from the metal wheel sets is low.

Instructions have a picture of the HO scale models and feature installation instructions for details of that scale, however; truck detail installation is the same for both. A translation is not required as the instructions have no words.
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They are not "Halberstadt" cars.

In Halberstadt there were repair shops of DR which produced passenger cars when the car manufacturers were overloaded with export orders. But Halberstadt never produced for export. And Halberstadt never made Z-type cars like these.

These cars came from regular car manufacturers. I'm not sure if they were made in Görlitz or Bautzen—but not in Halberstadt.
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They look like the ones made by TT-Modell.
But the car number on your Amee is differnt and the trucks are also different.
Some differences can be found also at the bottom. I haven't seen the botttom of the prototype, so it is hard to guess which one is correct :)

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I have one made by TT model. For over $50 I have a much higher expectation than what they deliver. These Modist cars are much nicer.
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As for the Halberstadt designation, that is how they are categorized on the box and in the instructions. Not to say you are not correct.
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In Halberstadt they initially made 4-axle "Reko" cars (18.7 m long). After a larger factory building was openned, they built X-type cars (26.4 m long). They were the longest single-story cars in GDR and were called "Lange Halberstädter" (long Halberstadt-cars).
Because they were the first cars of this length on DR rails, some people thought, "Lange Halberstädter" was a synonym for 26.4 m long cars. Probably, Modist was taken in by this error.
But the cars shown are definitely no "Lange Halberstädter". They are Z-type cars.
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Christtking wrote:The green cars for this Czech version look more like Bauzen type, because of the automatic doors.
In GDR (almost) all parts were standardized and used by several manufacturers. So the sliding doors are definitely not a good indication of the manufacturer.
But in this particular case you may be right because Ammendorf produced for Soviet Union only and the cars shown are not included in my list of Görliz-made cars. So Bautzen is the only manufacturer remaining which produced for export.
Christtking wrote:The Halberstadt type of cars (more modern) were longer versions of the previous shorter versions of type Y/B 70 cars. Halberstadt cars came in 2 simple versions when first designed: End entries and center entries (sort of Silberlinge).
I'ld not say that the X-type cars made in Halberstadt were a more modern version of the B-, Y- an Y/B70-types of passenger cars.
The Halberstadt cars simply follow a different standard. And those details, which are not arranged by this standard, had been developed independently and used in several series of Y/B70-type cars before.

By the way:
There were more versions made in Halberstadt.
  • center entries coach with open seating
  • end entries coach with 10 compartments (1st class)
  • end entries coach with 11 compartments (2nd class)
And I'm not sure if the combined coaches with baggage compartment were also made in Halberstadt.
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CSD wrote:I have one made by TT model. For over $50 I have a much higher expectation than what they deliver. These Modist cars are much nicer.
The Modist cars were maybe nicer, but with wrong lettering. If those 2 different versions could be combined into one correct.... Oh well.
The CSD logo and the car number are supposed to be black. The shape of the logo is also better on TT-modell's car.

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