End of TT Empire

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ConducTTor wrote:
Bill Dixon wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to incorporate the "TT Empire" into tt-nut as a once a month locked topic that would provide a monthly snapshot of what is going on.
I'd be fine with that if someone wants to do it.
How big of a snapshot are we looking at? I am definitely interested in pitching in with working on that possibility, just need more information.
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I think that's a good idea. There was an era when TT Empire was good, with a lot of good modelling ideas and info about models that were made that have long vanished.

Until a couple of years ago, I had issues from the 1990s, I think I subscribed for a year back then.

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Is it still possible to find tt empire old issues?
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As a past Editor of the TT Empire... (2005 - 2009)
I have most issues from 2000 through 2013 in PDF format...
and, thanks to Jim O'Brien, many earlier issues in paper.

You may find these useful:
25 Year cumulative Index: 1982-2007
TT-Empire 25-YearIndex.pdf
TT Empire 25-year index
(203.65 KiB) Downloaded 56 times
25th Anniversary Edition
200709 TTEmpire25-1.pdf
TT Empire 25th Anniversary Edition
(2.47 MiB) Downloaded 80 times
NB. The demise of the TT Empire could be attributed to some combination of new information technologies, changing demographics, and clashing personalities.
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Richard-B wrote:As a past Editor of the TT Empire... (2005 - 2009)
I have most issues from 2000 through 2013 in PDF format...
and, thanks to Jim O'Brien, many earlier issues in paper.[/i]
With all the members here is there a complete set that could be burned to cd?
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Bill Dixon wrote: With all the members here is there a complete set that could be burned to cd?
Great idea!
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Bill Dixon wrote:With all the members here is there a complete set that could be burned to cd?
The existence/availability of the issues is not the issue:
    1. 1) Scanning, cropping, and PDF'ing the paper issues is a non-trivial task...
        2) At least one former TT Empire editor (not myself) had opposed this on copyright grounds.
      That means that making issues available privately is probably 'Fair Use' (at least in the US)...
      but putting the entire archive on-line or distributing via CD-ROM is problematic.
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      So the question would be, who owns the copyright?
      I expect the TT-Society, or which ever group was sponsoring the publication.
      Unless the author has made a prior agreement, copyright for individual articles is vested in the publication.

      If the society is dead, the copyright is up for grabs.
      If it is alive then the society should be contacted to see what they say about the project.

      In either case I do not see an issue with doing the project.

      Finding the missing issues, as shown in the blanks of the all time index) might be fun. They may not have been published. Do not know if there is anyone alive who has that knowledge.

      If they are all 8" x 11" double sided pages, the scanning is easy.
      Remove staples then run them through a good multl function business printer (like the bizhub we have at work that scans to any format you want), and let it do all the hard work. Would scan each issue as one pdf. Just have to assign a name based on issue number and year month and you are done.

      If you want to get the issues to me I will do the scanning.
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      Bill Dixon wrote:So the question would be, who owns the copyright?
      I expect the TT-Society, or which ever group was sponsoring the publication.
      The NMRA TT SIG... now dormant, last revived by Tom Dempsey at Clover House.
      Unless the author has made a prior agreement, copyright for individual articles is vested in the publication.
      ...and someone would determine that HOW?.
      I don't believe not-knowing results in default to the publisher.
      If they are all 8" x 11" double sided pages, the scanning is easy.
      Easy No... Straightforward Yes. (...and some are 11 by 17 - two page pairs)
      I still suggest it is non-trivial...

      If someone REALLY wants to do this, I am NOT opposing it.
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      Not having a copy handy, can you tell me if every issue had a copyright notice in it?
      If so what is the wording?
      If there is no notice then there is no copyright on that issue of the publication.
      If there is a notice but no notice that individual articles are copyright by their authors, then there is no author copyright.
      If the author retained copyright the copyright section or article should say so.
      If we are worried about the issue, then we put a notice here and perhaps in the NMRA publication asking if any if the authors are asserting copyright to what they wrote.


      Scanning 11 x 17 pages will be fun. I would copy them down to individual pages so the whole lot could be scanned easier.

      It may be a tedious job but not an overly difficult one. We are not trying to create a fully indexed publication so a lot of work is avoided.

      I would be happy to do it but I do not currently have access to the publications.
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