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Re: US Diesel loc frof Russia

Postby ConducTTor » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:35 pm

So far there is only one pic. Nothing of the internals. However I can't imagine that Tillig would not use their current technology - it doesn't make economic sense to not use parts that you have readily available.
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Re: US Diesel loc frof Russia

Postby ConducTTor » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:42 pm

areibel wrote:Someone make the US style sideframes-
http://www.mini-things.com/resin.html........ Fred made these to modify them. He has a few other TT items, and I'm patiently waiting for the gondola he's building!


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Re: US Diesel loc frof Russia

Postby Norkin-model » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:14 am

Gyues - please - STOP floodding.

Admin - can you clean this topick and leave only things coserned my questions.
I hawe enough emty talks in Russian forums. A came here to made good lock but not to read flooding

Thank You all.

Lat's go back to MY questions.

Lat's do work!!!!

So Give me please a dimnatios of the 6 and 4 axels locks (like used in U.P. rr)
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Re: US Diesel loc from Russia

Postby scaro » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:56 am

Andrey

Hundreds of Pennsylvania Railroad diagrams. http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiag ... ml?sel=die

Photos : http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr-diesel.html

Pennsylvania was one of the biggest US railroads and had almost all models of locomotive. Tell me what you like (it's your project) and I'll help you find more information.

My only suggestion is you do a 'hood'unit, like a GP7 or GP9 http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr5840dsa.jpg as there were 6000 of them on the US railroads (most popular loco) and they are easier to build from an etch.

Measurements of GP7 : http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiag ... &sz=lg&fr=

Better plan of GP7 (same measurements as other picture) both sides, ends :

http://www.trainweb.org/willstrainart/T ... /GP7ND.htm

Don't have a diagram of roof yet. Can someone help Andrey out with a GP7 roof plan?

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Re: US Diesel loc frof Russia

Postby BTTB Fan » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:13 am

Norkin-model wrote:Gyues - please - STOP floodding.

Admin - can you clean this topick and leave only things coserned my questions.
I hawe enough emty talks in Russian forums. A came here to made good lock but not to read flooding

Thank You all.

Lat's go back to MY questions.

Lat's do work!!!!

So Give me please a dimnatios of the 6 and 4 axels locks (like used in U.P. rr)

Andrey, please watch your tone. Every post in this thread was relevant to the topic being discussed. I can only guess that by "empty talk" you are referring to the discussion of
chassis of T435, side frames, etc., and of so, I would like to remind you that it resulted from your stating that you only produce shells and are looking for ready chassis.

On a general level, you came to this forum asking for free help for your business. Please be prepared to accept the way the forums operate.
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Re: US Diesel loc from Russia

Postby Norkin-model » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:02 pm

BTTB Fan wrote:1) Andrey, please watch your tone.
2) that you only produce shells and are looking for ready chassis.
3) you came to this forum asking for free help for your business.

1) Sorry, i didn’t want to hurt anybody (-:
2) NO!!! I can produce both body and chassis(from ready euro parts also) I ask about if in US already exist one, because it is easier to send a Haggis of metal neither some strange(for custom house) separate parts. I repeat – I can do the whole chassis if there will be an exact parameters.
3) Free ??? Show me any manufacturer who will do a new model for you for free?

Model is this:
You all help me with materials + I do a development = new US TT model (modern)
Of course I can do this without help, but that wont be a true model. I think everyone what to have a model, but not a toy! Lat’s do this work together((-;


scaro wrote:by scaro

Thank you very much !!!

All you said is complitly right.
What is this – EMD?
http://www.trainnet.org/Libraries/Lib006/UP5042.JPG

…or this?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2120/242 ... 9c0734.jpg

If parameters won’t let us produce a model on euro parts (6x axels) (with our frame) of course we will do what is possible. But I’m sure that we can find something suitable.

Best wishes ((-:
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Re: US Diesel loc from Russia

Postby Norkin-model » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:09 pm

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Re: US Diesel loc from Russia

Postby scaro » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:12 pm

Norkin-model wrote:[All you said is complitly right.
What is this – EMD?
http://www.trainnet.org/Libraries/Lib006/UP5042.JPG

…or this?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2120/242 ... 9c0734.jpg


If parameters won’t let us produce a model on euro parts (6x axels) (with our frame) of course we will do what is possible. But I’m sure that we can find something suitable.

Best wishes ((-:



The first is EMD, I think an SD50. The second I do not know. EMD is General Motors. The one in your last post is a General Electric U28C.
If you wanted to use a Euro truck , I am not sure what Tillig truck you might use - this ?

http://www.eurotrainhobby.com/product_i ... ts_id/4600

I believe this chassis:

http://www.eurotrainhobby.com/product_i ... ucts_id/59

which is under a lot of Tillig diesels, has trucks too short for most US locos.

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Re: US Diesel loc from Russia

Postby areibel » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:39 pm

Hello Andrey,
The UP Diesel you have the pictue of is a model SD70M, built by EMD. They are some of the more modern US diesels, they started building them in the 1990's.
The drawing you found is an older locomotive, a U28C (Co-Co), built by General Electric back in the 1970's. They are pretty much out of service now.
I haven't been able to find scale drawings of the SD70M yet, I will check with a couple other modelers to see if they have anything. But here are some links to some detail pictures.
http://espee.railfan.net/picindex/sd70m ... 00000.html
http://espee.railfan.net/picindex/sd70m ... 00001.html
For trucks (bogies) maybe you know- do you have the measurements for the Peresvet Diesels? The M62 and TE10 are both six axle, but I can't find any dimensions to compare them to US models.
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Re: US Diesel loc from Russia

Postby Norkin-model » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:38 am

Ben and Al Reibel. There are also ROCO, Kuen, PIKO (yes – tt)
We need only bogies, engine and driving shift.

I will do some measurement (your dimnations to our metric)
This one (Roco BR 109) has:
http://www.palich.com/gallery/albums/rail_models/IMG_3555.sized.jpg
15 mm +/-0.5 mm between axels on one bogie

This one Tillig:
http://www.palich.com/gallery/rail_models/IMG_3564
17,5 mm

And this has(Tillig bogie – my frame):
http://www.palich.com/gallery/rail_chme3/IMG_5510_s
17mm

Your information is very important “…thanx for cooperation” (“the terminator2” movie) (((-:
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