TT Scale Business Cards

TT Scale Business Cards

Postby AstroGoat760 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:03 am

With the discussion about the upcoming 2016 NTS, coupled with me and CaTT's recent order with Vistaprint for business cards for our little farm, we have been giving thought to making business cards up for TT scale and http://www.ttnut.com.

Here is what we have thus far:
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We plan on putting more images on it, just need to figure out what they should be.

Inputs and advice are welcomed.
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby AstroGoat760 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:12 pm

Does anyone know who I would have to ask for permission to use the "TT A Fine Scale" image on the cards?
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby AstroGoat760 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:46 pm

Here is a second style. The blank space on the left side of the card is meant for a picture of some kind, as yet to be determined.
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby Richard-B » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:33 pm

AngrySailor302 wrote:Does anyone know who I would have to ask for permission to use the "TT A Fine Scale" image on the cards?
Here is a version of the artwork that Russ Clover updated back in 2007...

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A Fine Scale - Russ Clover
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby Tom Dempsey » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:24 pm

Since this is the purpose for which the artwork was created, I don't see any reason you couldn't use it. I purchased all Russ's artwork and this is not anywhere in my files. Was it done for the Empire or did Russ convey it to Elmer. If the rights weren't conveyed then they stay with me and I wouldn't have any objection, however, again, this artwork is not anywhere in my files. I suspect that if it was conveyed, it went to Elmer McKay as he used it on the masthead of his website.
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby Richard-B » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:52 pm

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As Tom Dempsey http://www.cloverhouse.com has Russ Clover's commercial artwork, I have forwarded the vector source to him.
Since this is the purpose for which the artwork was created, I don't see any reason you couldn't use it.
Russ's intent was for non-(blatantly) commercial use....

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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby dileTTante » Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:06 pm

The term 'fine scale' implies detailed realistic modeling. In fact there are Proto:Scale and Fine Scale groups.
http://nmra.org/sites/default/files/sta ... _s-4.1.pdf
Also, there are web-sites using the term 'fine scale'
http://finescale.com/
http://www.finescalerr.com/cgi-finescal ... alinks.cgi

We're trying to promote TT scale to all kinds of modelers, not just ones interested in the greatest degree of realism.

For these reasons I feel that the use of the term 'fine scale' for TT should be discouraged. I think the term 'ideal scale' is better. It is essentially the message printed on the shirts we wore in Portland. It was used by BTTB -- 'die Ideale Spur', but using it in English probably isn't an infringement.

Just my opinion, of course.
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby ConducTTor » Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:26 pm

I second Terry's opinion.
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby AstroGoat760 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:14 pm

dileTTante wrote:The term 'fine scale' implies detailed realistic modeling. In fact there are Proto:Scale and Fine Scale groups.
http://nmra.org/sites/default/files/sta ... _s-4.1.pdf
Also, there are web-sites using the term 'fine scale'
http://finescale.com/
http://www.finescalerr.com/cgi-finescal ... alinks.cgi

We're trying to promote TT scale to all kinds of modelers, not just ones interested in the greatest degree of realism.

For these reasons I feel that the use of the term 'fine scale' for TT should be discouraged. I think the term 'ideal scale' is better. It is essentially the message printed on the shirts we wore in Portland. It was used by BTTB -- 'die Ideale Spur', but using it in English probably isn't an infringement.

Just my opinion, of course.
-Terry C.


Terry, I never thought of it that way. I withdraw my interest in using the "TT a fine scale" on the cards.

Now, is there a "TT The Ideal Scale" image that can be used?
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Re: TT Scale Business Cards

Postby Richard-B » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:24 pm

dileTTante wrote:<snip>The term 'fine scale' implies detailed realistic modeling. In fact there are Proto:Scale and Fine Scale groups.
Ahhh... aren't ontology discussions FUN!

Terry...
I don't disagree; But it is worth noting that the TT slogan started as a word play, and probably pre-dates widespread use of 'fine' in the railroad modeling context.

There was also:
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