TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby Marquette » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:35 pm

I think Fleischmann, Roco and the rest would argue that, but yes, that's a good point.
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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:55 pm

Roco has less than half the sales of Marklin......


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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:12 pm

CSD wrote:Personally I'm rather excited. There are quite a few Czech items I've been waiting on!


I knew you would be. Obviously CSD/CD is Tillig's second biggest segment.
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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:07 pm

A couple of container cars I may be interested in. I have no experience with Busch though - what type of quality should be expected?
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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby Arseny » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:06 pm

I do not know. I have only one building from Busch, it is nice:
busch-freight-station-t1391.html

But as concerns cars, they seem to be former Lorenz's ones, aren't they?
http://www.lorenz-modellbahn.de/schiene_TT.html
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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:44 pm

Arseny wrote:But as concerns cars, they seem to be former Lorenz's ones, aren't they?
http://www.lorenz-modellbahn.de/schiene_TT.html


They are. I'm just wondering if Busch has/is changing anything about designs/manufacturing.
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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby j p » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:22 am

ConducTTor wrote:
Arseny wrote:But as concerns cars, they seem to be former Lorenz's ones, aren't they?
http://www.lorenz-modellbahn.de/schiene_TT.html


They are. I'm just wondering if Busch has/is changing anything about designs/manufacturing.


Yes, they did. The couplers. Busch's cars have Tillig couplers while Lorenz used BTTB couplers. They mention is also in the text.
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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby LVG1 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:38 pm

j p wrote:Then the start set section: CDC and PKP sets have engines with no prototypes. Is that a tradition from Zeuke's times?
They could just paint the same engine in ATSF, SP or NYC schemes too.


Start sets are intended to attract children. They don't care about prototypicality.
Those who want prototypical models are customers already. So they shan't buy the cheap start sets. They shall spend more money... :problem:
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Re: TT Scale 2013 NEW Models

Postby j p » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:25 pm

LVG1 wrote:
j p wrote:Then the start set section: CDC and PKP sets have engines with no prototypes. Is that a tradition from Zeuke's times?
They could just paint the same engine in ATSF, SP or NYC schemes too.


Start sets are intended to attract children. They don't care about prototypicality.
Those who want prototypical models are customers already. So they shan't buy the cheap start sets. They shall spend more money... :problem:


I don't agree.
If it is supposed to bring new future customers, then the paint should be protypically correct. Of course, the models can be simplified, without expensive details. Making the start sets wrong on purpouse causes only disappointment of the children. If Tillig cheats the young customers on purpouse, they would remember and either chose a different scale or forget about the model trains at all. Making the start sets in "Tillig Line" paint scheme would be more acceptable.

"Daddy, can we go to the train station to find the same engine as we have at home?"
"Sorry son, that is not possible because that engine never existed in real"

If the disappointment doesn't come in early stage, it comes later for sure when the kid gets older to realize that he can just throw away his first start set - or that it is good only for kitbashing.

Tillig has old moulds suitable for start sets for Czech and Poland (and for Slovakia): E499
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