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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby LVG1 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:47 pm

Dibbedabb wrote:A tanker W50 articulated truck will have existed...


Non-articulated W50 tanker trucks also existed. They were for agricultural purposes with a spray for pesticides.

Dibbedabb wrote:There were suitable tractors in the GDR. Either Skoda and RoMAN (I think, but I'm not sure) and imported Volvo and Mercedes. Last of them not many, of course...


Volvo and Mercedes tractor trucks in GDR were all owned by one leasing company and all used by haulage company "Deutrans" for international transport. International container transports to and from GDR were carried out by railway and ship but as far as I know not by trucks.
The usual tractor trucks for container transports within the GDR were Škoda and LIAZ, respectively (Czechoslovakia, now Czech Republic), Tatra (Czechoslovakia, now Czech Republic), Jelcz (Poland), ROMAN (Romania, MAN license), MAZ (Soviet Union, now Belarus) and KamAZ (Soviet Union, now Russia).

Dibbedabb wrote:As far as I know the W50 tractor was rather seldom.


W50 tractors were delivered together with 4 different types of trailers.
Most W50 tractors ran for farms and pulled trailers for milk or for mixed feed.
But there were also trailers for fuel and trailers with platform and tarp.
All W50 trailers were relatively light and short and had only a single axle.
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby LVG1 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:26 pm

LVG1 wrote:
Dibbedabb wrote:A tanker W50 articulated truck will have existed...


Non-articulated W50 tanker trucks also existed. They were for agricultural purposes with a spray for pesticides.


I've looked it up. There were further types of non-articulated W50 tankers.
At least a water tanker and a fuel tanker (both all-wheel driven)—but I can't remember to have ever seen them.

And one of the 10 or 11 types of W50 fire engines also had a water tank.
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby Marquette » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:54 am

non-artic W50 tankers? What about the ditch-suckers? ("Grubenentleerung") Or are those not 'tankers'?
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby LVG1 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:27 pm

Marquette wrote:non-artic W50 tankers? What about the ditch-suckers? ("Grubenentleerung") Or are those not 'tankers'?


Yes! Sorry!
I forgot this because the liquid manure pit of my grandparents was always emptied by a 2-axle trailer pulled by a tractor.
These trailers could suck in their "payload" and spread it on the fields.

Great fertilizer...
...and unforgettable odour! :sick:
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby Dibbedabb » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:38 pm

Fresh country air :mrgreen:
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby LVG1 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:50 pm

True!
As rural as even possible! :grin:

But there's something else that catches my attention:

ConducTTor wrote:
Dibbedabb wrote:A tanker W50 articulated truck will have existed, but is still kind of funny... The original W50 had hardly enough power to pull itself. In the late 80s W50 were used to transport container trailers through Berlin, but only the empty ones, because they wouldn't have enough power to pull a loaded...


:lol:

Why would you even build such a piece of crap???


So bad W50 has never been. Or what do you think why it was an export hit?
More than 70 % of the production went abroad. Not only to COMECON-countries—they were also sold to Africa, Asia and Latin America. Especially militaries liked these trucks.
And in East Germany (almost) all fire departments still use them.

W50 was never intended to pull heavy loads.
Their maximum payload is 5 tons. Seen that way, the comparison with Mercedes Atego is quiet realistic; but you have to consider that W50 was created 3 decades earlier. (Have you ever seen a Mercedes Atego pulling container trailers?)
W50 was mainly intended to be a good workhorse for farming. Only secondarily it was of interest to serve the military and civilian purposes beside agriculture.

Don't run W50 down. It is still very popular with most people who drove them.

By the way:
Did you know that Mercedes Atego (and Sprinter) is made in the same factory that produced W50?
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby Dibbedabb » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:29 pm

Yep, I know ;)
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby Zs12 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:03 pm

There is a new 2-axle NA passenger truck kit available by Siggis Modellbahn Shop ... in molded plastic! :thinking:
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby scaro » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:09 am

ooh, interesting. what is the wheelbase? i might be able to use these. it's a very generic design.
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Re: TT Scale 2012 NEW Models

Postby ConducTTor » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:23 am

Tillig's autumn "new" models.

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