Tillig Parts

Tillig Parts

Postby areibel » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:48 pm

I've got a couple Tillig shells up for grabs, a V200 shell and a BR120 shell along with the plastic bases, metal weights (if you want them) and some of the small details. FREE. you just pay the postage (or come pick them up!). First to speak up gets them.
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Re: Tillig Parts

Postby clipers » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:55 pm

Is BR 120 shell still available?
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Re: Tillig Parts

Postby LVG1 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:36 pm

areibel wrote:..., a V200 shell and a BR120 shell along with...


V200 East (from 1970 on BR 120, from 1992 on BR 220)
or V200 West (from 1968 on BR 220 / 221)???

BR 120 East (until 1970 V200, from 1992 on BR 220)
or BR 120 West (electric, no other designation)???

There are some traps in the German designation system... :crazy:
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Re: Tillig Parts

Postby j p » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:21 am

There are no traps for diesels or electrics if you write the designation in full, including the road.
V200 DR or BR 120 DR is clear.
Also V200 DB or BR 221 DB is clear.

But there are traps in the designation of the steam engines.
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Re: Tillig Parts

Postby LVG1 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:49 pm

j p wrote:There are no traps for diesels or electrics if you write the designation in full, including the road.


But here the road is not included. That's why I asked.

j p wrote:But there are traps in the designation of the steam engines.


Really? Can you tell an example?
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Re: Tillig Parts

Postby j p » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:03 pm

Well, it is simple:
The designation for the steam locomotives basically means only the wheel arrangement and the use of the engine. There might be many different types hiding under the same designation.
I take BR 38 (from Roco) as an example. It is no enough to determine the type of the engine only from this. BR 38 basically means a locomotive for passenger trains with the wheel arrangement 2 C (4-6-0). But there were many different passenger train locomotives with this wheel arrangement.
You need the additional number(s) after the space to determine the type.
The most common BR 38 was probably the Prussian P 8, which became DRG's BR 38 10 - 30. (4 digits after the space)
But those were different from the locomotives inherited from Saxony, which became DRG's BR 38 2-3 (3 digits after the space)
So, one has to be careful. BR 38 2 is not the same type as BR 38 20.
This caused confusions and problems in maintenance and was one of the reasons for DRG's standard locomotive types - leading to unification of the locomotive types in Germany (BR 64, 24, 86, 80, 81 etc.)
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Re: Tillig Parts

Postby LVG1 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:42 pm

Well, this problem is just as easy soluble like the east-west-differentiation of other locomotives. You told the solution yourself. Add the first digit(s) of the order number to the BR-number.
But not only steam locomotives have different subtypes. It's the same with diesel and electric locomotives.

By the way:
The standardization of the locomotive types had got absolutely nothing to do with designation. The problems in maintenance existed independently of the "names" which the rolling stock had. And the first steps of standardization were done long before Deutsche Reichsbahn came to be and created this designation system.
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Re: Tillig Parts

Postby TT-SouthAfrica » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:44 am

Am I too late ? sounds like a bargain... working condition though?
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