Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:05 am

Small series of American prototype diesel. Comes as a kit to be put together by the owner.
Bo-Bo diesel. All wheel electrical pickup and drive. Two wheels have traction tires.
All parts are off the shelf Tillig pieces other than the chassis (which I believe is a Nohab chassis with one end cut square), body shell and glass inserts.
I've put most of it together so I don't have pictures of the individual parts.
Lighting is directional LEDs as part of the standard Tillig circuit board but not meant for this model. The rear LEDs should be covered so they are not seen through the rear door window. The red LED on the front should be covered as well since it's not prototype correct to have red lighting on the front.
Every part of this kit is separate - the manual shows what the parts are but is not clear about what goes where so you need to figure it out. Putting the model together however and figuring out how things fit together is quite enjoyable.
The front windows don't fit flush in the cab and require some altering. The "glass" in the number board area is an even worse fit and requires a lot of patience and very delicate alteration to fit.
The chassis is standard Tillig but needs some removal of material for the body to fit on well.
The body shell is decent; not quite Tillig level detail but the paint is up to standard. The shell has two notches that SHOULD snap onto two tabs on the chassis however it doesn't - it's a tad wider. This could be due to a bad mold or a lower grade of plastic which has warped slightly over time.
It comes with a set of Kadee #714 couplers to be put together by the owner. Mounting of the couplers onto the model itself is a custom affair since the provisions provided are not quite correct in all aspects.
Even though there are some short comings on this model, the process of building it and finessing everything in place is fun and the end product is very good even if a notch below Tillig's RTR products.
Performance is right on par with standard Tillig locomotives.
The manual is 5 pages all in German.

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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:09 am

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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:11 am

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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby Zs12 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:37 am

Tillig's instruction leaflet tells, that an early ROKAL model (produced in West-germany in the 1960th) the basis for that loco is. Tillig has just modified this old stuff, so i.e. it's a bit narrower now.
Bogies and gear (both BR101), wheels (BR 118) and all other mechanical parts, like the engine, circuit board and s.o., are out of the regular Tillig product line.
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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby ConducTTor » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:27 am

Thanks, this is good info. Especially for those who are modding Lionel models and looking for parts to use.
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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby scaro » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:12 pm

Frankly, the Tillig one looks only slightly less crude than the Lionel one. Now I know why! If I bought this, I'd be mightily pissed off, given the price.

The Rokal looks like an F9 too, and seems they marketed it as an F7, which is nearer the mark than Tillig, who insisted on calling it an FP7.

F7 http://www.rockisl.com/cgi-bin/display. ... &e=1&n=114

F9 http://www.rockisl.com/cgi-bin/display.asp?f=1&e=1&n=21 (OK, rebuilt from an F3 but it's got all the F9 spotting features!)

FP7 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 318&nseq=3

A heck of a lot longer than an F7 or F9.

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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby scaro » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:31 am

Hi

I am wondering if anyone can provide the measurements for this model.

Truck wheelbase.

Distance between truck centres.

I am thinking looks rather too short for an FP7, by about 2 feet. An FP has the same wheelbase as a GP38-2 etc.

Lok N Roll are offering them now.

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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby Richard-B » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:58 am

For reference:
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F-unit Phases - from: Jan 1970 - Extra 2200 South
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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby ConducTTor » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:37 pm

scaro wrote:Lok N Roll are offering them now.


The Lok-N-Roll version appears to be the same as Tillig's. A copy of the original Rokal.
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Re: Tillig FP7 Rock Island model 500180

Postby Richard-B » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:03 pm

ConducTTor wrote: <snip>...appears to be the same as Tillig's. A copy of the original Rokal.
So...
A copy of a copy of a model approximating an FP7 (or 9... or neither)
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