Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby member13 » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:31 pm

And to think I don't even have the Roco BR132 yet................
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby ConducTTor » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:11 pm

Speaking of the Roco BR 132, do any of you own it and what do you think of it? There was one at Euro Hobby several months ago but one of you beat me to it......
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby CSD » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:20 pm

This loco is also being released by Roco in Czechoslovakian, Polish and Hungarian versions. I have my Sergeje on order!
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby CSD » Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:15 pm

Here are a few pictures of the T679 from Tillig. It does indeed sport an overly large gap between the trucks and the frame. The function of the model is very good and the weight of it is great. Pick-up is from all wheels and 4 axels are driven. The front window is a little weird.
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby CSD » Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:32 pm

I had some thoughts on fixing the gap.
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The top can be removed by pulling out the buffers.
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The frame is a plastic part that is clipped into place. It could be lowered by sanding the tabs a little (about 1mm). This would require removal of a layer of metal from the top of the weight and drilling new holes for the buffers so that the shell could be lowered as well.
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Another option would be to machine the weight. The trucks are held in with a pin that also holds one of the gears in place. If the slot was to be enlarged upward (about 1mm) this would lower the entire frame and shell. This would require some precision work. There is enough flexibility in the motor shafts to allow this.
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To further improve this loco you could remove the light bulb and replace it with an LED.

Another minor hassle is that you have to remove the trucks and frame to access the circuit board. Getting the pin back into the gear requires some care.

I'm going to wait until the one from Roco is shipped to me for a comparison before starting any work on this one. I can't wait!
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:36 pm

There has been lengthy discussion on a German board regarding this. I'll dig it up and post the link. If you don't know German (I don't), the specifics get lost in the translation badly. However, the pictures may be of help.
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby areibel » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:51 pm

CSD,
If you have a chance, could you measure the distance between the axles in MM? I'm still trying to find something close to a US diesel in axle spacing.
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby BTTB Fan » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:03 pm

areibel wrote:CSD,
If you have a chance, could you measure the distance between the axles in MM? I'm still trying to find something close to a US diesel in axle spacing.
Al

And, when you've done that, how about posting it in the new section, along with other measurements (overall dimensions, weight, etc.)?
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby CSD » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:23 pm

areibel wrote:CSD,
If you have a chance, could you measure the distance between the axles in MM? I'm still trying to find something close to a US diesel in axle spacing.
Al


The spacing is even between all axels on the truck at about 17.65 mm (0.695"). The distance between the inside axels on the trucks is 37.50 mm (1.476"). So total layout is:

[0-(17.65)-0-(17.65)-0] -(37.50)- [0-(17.65)-0-(17.65)-0]

BTTB Fan wrote:And, when you've done that, how about posting it in the new section, along with other measurements (overall dimensions, weight, etc.)?


No problem. I'll get some measurements when the Roco version shows up and I take it apart again.
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Re: Tillig class V 200 / 120 / T 679 / M62

Postby areibel » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:12 pm

Thank You!
That actually is very close to what is needed for Andrey's SD project. The prototype should be 6 feet 9.5 inches between axles, this one scales out to just over 6 feet 11 inches.
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