Tillig BR 189 City Night Line (CNL) model 02471

Tillig BR 189 City Night Line (CNL) model 02471

Postby ConducTTor » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:11 pm

Very nice model with the expected Tillig quality in paint, detail, drive etc.

The roof detail of electric components is great. Drive is via all four axles. Electrical pickup is all 8 wheels or any one of the four pantographs. Lighting is directional via LED and DCC is NEM 651. Comes with standard Tillig couplers and a few small detail parts.

When I first put it on the rails it wobbled and I was worried that it will either need a trip back to Tillig or I would have to put up with it or fix it myself. However, after a few laps the wobble disappeared and the loco runs extremely quietly and smoothly. I guess the traction tires weren't completely settled on the wheels and just needed to be worked in a bit.

The manual is three pages all in German.

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Re: Tillig BR 189 City Night Line (CNL) model 02471

Postby anotherTTnut » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:58 am

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rear lighting
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front lighting
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decoder connection location with NEM 651 decoder with 90 degree angle pins
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no visible gears in the trucks, this will be service friendly on the future layout as is doesn't pick up dirt
Fantastic model! I love how bright the LED`s are, they actually illuminate quite well in front of the loco. This model comes with the new PluX 12 decoder interface which will also still accept the regular 6-pin decoders with angled pins. It can be switched to take off power from the rails or from the pantographs. I should be in possession of an actual PluX 12 decoder in the next couple weeks and will then report on the workings of the extra functions with the decoder. Running the Loco in analog, she moves fairly slow compared to most of my other ones. That`s true to the original with only 140 km/h top speed (as far as I know, there is a couple locos modified with a top speed of 230 km /h). LS model is supposed to bring out a set of City Nightline wagons later this year, then she would have finally something to pull......
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Re: Tillig BR 189 City Night Line (CNL) model 02471

Postby ConducTTor » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:08 am

Which decoder did you choose? I can't wait for the CNL cars....meanwhile, some of the current offerings from LSM fit in a CNL train (as far as I've been able to find), most commonly the Russian ones.
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Re: Tillig BR 189 City Night Line (CNL) model 02471

Postby anotherTTnut » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:43 pm

I ordered the CT Electronik DCX51-P12 (see picture) which is recommended by Tillig and is currently the only manufacture that has them available. ESU and Kuehn will come out with there own version later this year as well and as soon they come available I think I keep bying the ESU ones just for their added features like Rail Com Plus and a new lower freqency adjustment up to 40 KHz to run older Locos even better at low speeds if you convert them to digital
On the wagons I havent decided yet, I need something that fits into my plausable approch that I had to ride or see them at one point or that they past through my old home province (Thueringen) back in Germany
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CT Elektronik DCX51 - P12
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Re: Tillig BR 189 City Night Line (CNL) model 02471

Postby anotherTTnut » Sun May 08, 2011 1:49 pm

anotherTTnut wrote:I ordered the CT Electronik DCX51-P12 (see picture) which is recommended by Tillig and is currently the only manufacture that has them available. ESU and Kuehn will come out with there own version later this year as well and as soon they come available I think I keep bying the ESU ones just for their added features like Rail Com Plus and a new lower freqency adjustment up to 40 KHz to run older Locos even better at low speeds if you convert them to digital
On the wagons I havent decided yet, I need something that fits into my plausable approch that I had to ride or see them at one point or that they past through my old home province (Thueringen) back in Germany
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Fail!!!!!!!
The decoder is a no fit in the BR189 as the decoder pins are not centered on the decoder and unfortunately the decoder doesn't fit in the designated location. Lenght is not the issue, but the width is...... :thumbdown:

Decoder measurements: 18.6mm x 9.5mm x 3.6mm (decoder height or 7mm with pins)

I hope I can rectify this issue later on this year when Tillig will finally start selling there own version or use one of the new ESU PluX 12 decoders with cable tree or a Kuehn version as they are usually quite slim.
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Re: Tillig BR 189 City Night Line (CNL) model 02471

Postby ConducTTor » Sun May 08, 2011 4:21 pm

Damn - what a suck :thumbdown:
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