SMALL coal tower

SMALL coal tower

Postby Murad » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:46 am

Can't find any pictures of a SMALL coal tower. I need a PRR (or just more common one) prototype from 1915-30s for a local steam depot. Could you help me with some pictures?
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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby j p » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:23 pm

How small?
Check http://www.navpooh.com/GenRef.html
"In general, where the amount of coal to be handled is from from 100 to 250 tons per day a derrick and bucket plant, a locomotive crane, or a clam-shell bucket and chute combined, are advisable. When more than 250 tons per day are handled a trestle and chute or a mechanical plant are most economic. Every coaling station should have a storage capacity sufficient for several days' supply At many plants the coal must be stored in cars; otherwise additional handling of the coal is necessary. Both are uneconomical."

E.g. a small coaling towers did not exist. Use a derrick and bucket plant instead?
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Maybe you want to remove the ash too?
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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby Arseny » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:34 pm

PRR Coaling Tower in Renovo, Pennsylvania

ImagePRR Coaling Tower Renovo, PA by James R., on Flickr

It looks close to John Harmon's paper/cardstock model (B9), am I right?

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Also you can buy and download plan and pattern for small coaling tower here:
http://www.scalemodelplans.com/smp/pgs/ ... _trackside
- although I do not know, if it is suitable for PRR...

Also look here for some coal towers:

http://home.earthlink.net/~railroad_tow ... roadmania/

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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby j p » Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:54 pm

All those coaling towers are for medium and large depots though. The one to download seems to be missing means for getting the coal into it.
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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby gerhard_k » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:38 pm

To follow up on j_p's comment about a small coaling facility, how about Auhagen #13293? Yes, it's not a "tower", but to me it has a nice railroady feel to it.
And when I ran steam locos in my 3 visits to Wolsztyn, Poland in 2010-2013, their facility looked a lot like that.
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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby AstroGoat760 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:54 pm

I have seen some elevated old hoppers used as a coaling tower for smaller coaling stops, there is one like it still up near Drake, ND. I do not know about Pennsylvania usage like that, unfortunately.

I do not know how helpful that is to you though. I figured that info might possibly be useful for this project.
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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby Bernd » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:18 pm

Pictures of coaling towers. Take your pick.

https://www.google.com/search?q=small+model+railroad+coaling+tower&biw=1536&bih=770&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CBwQsARqFQoTCLDfpuH63sgCFQqsHgod0wgBwQ

and here's one I have in HO. http://www.campbellscalemodels.com/product_p/0357.htm

The Pennsy had large coaling stations. Also depends on what year you are modeling. Late steam = large coaling towers. Early steam = smaller coaling towers.

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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby Murad » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:19 pm

Thank you all for the links!

J p! I think it will be more closer to mid size depot. I just want a coaling tower because this building have a very specific american design.
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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby Murad » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:21 pm

Right now I'm looking for this type of coaling towers
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Re: SMALL coal tower

Postby j p » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:46 am

It is up to you Murad. A depot which needs a coaling tower would most likely be larger than a whole layout of most of us. But you can always add some tracks running towards "outside of the scene" and say that the depot is actually larger. Or make a picture of a medium sized depot as a background.
A medium-size depot for Pennsy would be a very large size depot in Europe. It is because of the number of engines and their size. Of course, Pennsy had also small depots or engine sheds on its branch lines.
I can try to find some pictures in "The Keystone".
Here is one suggestion for a coaling facility, it is in Orbisonia, Pennsylvania on EBT.
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There is a siding for getting hoppers to the top of it.

Here in DK, only Copehangen had a coaling tower. Aarhus had a system with narrow-gauge tip cars. All other depots had coaling cranes/derricks.
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