Siggi's? NA TT

Siggi's? NA TT

Postby ConducTTor » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:24 pm

Which one of our German friends does this shop belong to? I'd like to order some items.

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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby Arseny » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:32 pm

Ingo Schwaetzer from Germany told me about "Siggis Modellbahnshop" and said that Siggi is his reseller.
I've found by google this one: http://www.siggis-modellbahn-shop.de/
It seems to be almost the same shop. Maybe some test version?

Do you like Bay Window caboose? There was an article about some Ingo's stuff in the last issue of TT Empire.
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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby areibel » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:36 pm

As far as I know, Siggi doesn't ship to the US. I ordered a couple of Ingo's kits directly, but Mikee (TT Empire) is organizing a group buy to save on shipping. Details were in the last Empire, I can look it up if anyone needs it.
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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby ConducTTor » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:12 pm

Arseny wrote:Do you like Bay Window caboose?


Uh huh.
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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby Zs12 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:28 am

Arseny wrote:Ingo Schwaetzer from Germany told me about "Siggis Modellbahnshop" and said that Siggi is his reseller.
I've found by google this one: http://www.siggis-modellbahn-shop.de/
It seems to be almost the same shop.

That's correct. Just look at the site notice.
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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby scaro » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:45 am

ConducTTor wrote:
Arseny wrote:Do you like Bay Window caboose?


Uh huh.



maybe it's worth a separate thread and hopefully the 'marquette treatment' ... if it isn't out of era for him? ... but what roads apart from ATSF used this particular style of caboose with this window configuration?

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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby areibel » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:43 am

That caboose is actually a pretty common prototype, I bought two because they're about 95% correct for one batch of cabooses the Erie Lackawanna bought from International Car Company. It only differs in the big window in the bay itself, the model has a larger split window where the EL's were a single smaller window. It's good enough for me, these cabooses had sliding rock screens added later that will cover it up if I decide to change it. ANd Ingo has included some blanking plates to fill un needed windows on the sides and ends while you're building the kit, the Santa Fe one has the side windows blocked off. It is a beautiful kit, the only problem I had was with getting the steps together straight but I'll post a pic when I get a chance.
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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby scaro » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:48 am

oh, so how many side windows can it be built with?
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Postby areibel » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:19 am

The carbody has four side windows not counting the bays, a lot like this
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-c331.jpg
This group was built in the early 1950's, and survived right up until they quit using cabooses in the Conrail era. You can see the smaller window in the bay, but I think eventually I can add the screens to camoflage it like this-
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/el-c330alr.jpg
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Re: Siggi's? NA TT

Postby Arseny » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:52 am

scaro wrote:
ConducTTor wrote:
Arseny wrote:Do you like Bay Window caboose?


Uh huh.


maybe it's worth a separate thread and hopefully the 'marquette treatment' ... if it isn't out of era for him? ... but what roads apart from ATSF used this particular style of caboose with this window configuration?

ben


I did not perform a great research, but I discovered that Walthers offers in H0 bay window cabooses looking like Ingo's one:
http://www.cchobbies.com/hoscale/freigh ... aboose.htm

For example, I've found "my" SOO Line:

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It looks almost the same; at least I can't find the difference.

On the trains.com forum ( http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/t/91837.aspx ) somebody told that SOO-MILW Bay Window Cabooses based on bay window cabooses that were acquired by the Soo Line when the company bought the Milwaukee Road.
According to Wikipedia it happened in 1985.
Not too good for me, but it means that I can use it as Milwaukee's one for the 1950s.

Wikipedia says: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caboose#Bay_window_caboose )

"This type afforded a better view of the side of the train and eliminated the falling hazard of the cupola. It is thought to have first been used on the Akron, Canton and Youngstown Railroad in 1923, but is particularly associated with the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, which built all of its cabooses in this design starting from an experimental model in 1930. The bay window gained favor with many railroads also because it eliminated the need for additional clearances in tunnels and overpasses.

On the West Coast, the Milwaukee Road and the Northern Pacific Railway used these cars converting over 900 roof top cabooses to bay windows in the late 1930s. [2] Milwaukee Road rib side bay window cabooses are preserved at New Lisbon, Wisconsin, the Illinois Railway Museum, the Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad and Cedarburg, Wisconsin, among other places.

The Western Pacific Railroad was an early adopter of the type, building their own bay window cars starting in 1942 and acquiring this style exclusively from then on. Many other roads operated this type, including the Southern Pacific Railroad, St. Louis – San Francisco Railway, Kansas City Southern, the Southern Railway, and the New York Central Railroad."
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