Santa Fe hoppers

Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby j p » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:31 pm

The original paint scheme is the one with the yellow end.
Excellent photos from 1966, very easy for making the artwork:
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And one more in color from 1967:
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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby TiTan downunder » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:53 am

And the models look like this ( up close and personal - as they say ). Really need a coat of flat finish.

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The decal artwork was supplied by Richard Brennan and my friend printed them up on his ALPS printer. Came out much sharper than some Micro-Scale N & even HO ones I've bought. The trouble with close up photos like these is that it really shows my decaling / painting skills could do with some improvement.


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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby j p » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:30 am

Hi Ian

It looks good.
I would recommend spray paint, flat finish half-mat, and injection molded trucks (MTB or Art&Detail).
Check pm please.

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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby MacG » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:08 pm

Is the rough surface from the paint or at the model?
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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby Bernd » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:39 pm

Looking at the pictures from the previous page I'd have to opine that it could be the model. Having done resin castings I won't think that it could be that rough. Looks more like a grainy picture.

Still have to give Ian :thumbup: :thumbup: for doing a one piece casting.

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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby RodTT » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:52 am

I've started building one of these hoppers and I have a question about the ladders. Are they supposed to follow the angle of the sides, so they slope in towards the bottom, or should they be spaced away from the body somehow at the bottom to remain vertical? I'm guessing the latter but with the kit as built this isn't possble without adding some kind of spacer. Ian's picture above of the model shows the ladder sloping in with the body, whereas the prototype photos show them vertical, as far as I can make out.
The same question probably applies to the short ladders too.
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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby j p » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:33 pm

I think that the photos of the prototype show very nicely the correct position of the ladders.

When I see the pictures of Ian's model (again), I would recommend not to print the "Santa Fe" text in the herald in yellow. It would look better if it was left without any print (transparent), making it match the yellow color of the car.

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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby j p » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:18 pm

One question:
Was this a special design for ATSF or did other railroads buy those gondolas too?
I tried to ask Google - without any luck. The only results I got were ATSF.
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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby Richard-B » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:31 pm

j p wrote:I would recommend not to print the "Santa Fe" text in the herald in yellow. It would look better if it was left without any print (transparent), making it match the yellow color of the car.
I agree with JP...
Color matching the decal yellow to the painted yellow is quite difficult.

I didn't do these as decals... let me take a look.
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Re: Santa Fe hoppers

Postby Richard-B » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:41 pm

j p wrote:Was this a special design for ATSF or did other railroads buy those gondolas too?
I tried to ask Google - without any luck. The only results I got were ATSF.
ATSF [full stop]
These cars were custom-designed for dedicated unit-train service between the York Canyon coal mine in New Mexico, and the Kaiser steel plant in Fontana California (now site of the Auto Club Speedway racetrack!)

They -did- get repainted...
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Ga-152 in 1978
and when the steel mill closed, were re-purposed into scrap hauling and other duties.
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Ga-152 in 2006
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