Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

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Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby Marquette » Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:25 pm

Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Steam locomotives
140.4 (Tillig BR56.20)
150.0 (Tillig BR50)
150.1000-1100 (Tillig BR52)
150.1201-1202 (Kittler BR42)
230.0 (Jatt BR38.10)

Trainsets & railcars
79 (BTTB/Tillig DR 171 or Kres DR 172)
91 (Kres BR 628.4)
92 (Kres BR 628.4)
96 (Tillig Desiro)

Passenger & freight cars
Steam ran in Romania into the late 1970s, so Y wagons and various era-suitable freight cars can be used to model CFR rolling stock. But, unfortunately, Romanian diesel and electric locomotives are all of unique design, and so there's nothing for the modern modeller to pull the various passenger and freight cars that could be modelled (including Eurofima types). There is, however, a number of railcars and DMUs that can be modelled in the modern era.

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150.025

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150.1105

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250.071

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79-0602

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92-0102

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96-2039

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1st class Y

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1st class Y

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1st class Y

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1st class Y

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2nd class Y

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2nd class Y

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Eurofima type

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Eurofima type

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Eurofima type

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Refurbished double-deckers - maybe kitbashable from BTTB?

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Kitbashable from BTTB?
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby Marquette » Sun May 16, 2010 5:35 pm

Tillig has produced three CFR freight cars, all from the modern era (ep. V):

Eaos ep V Tillig 15236:
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Res ep V Tillig 15506:
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Rils ep V Tillig 15545:
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby CSD » Sun May 16, 2010 7:10 pm

East Germany's BR119 was a Romanian built locomotive. I can only assume that some ran there as well. Tillig makes a model.
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby Marquette » Sun May 16, 2010 8:02 pm

Surprisingly enough, CFR never had any of those!
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby ConducTTor » Sun May 16, 2010 8:33 pm

If I remember correctly, Romania built them for Germany and according to German spec. More specifically, Germany needed this locomotive but their builders where at capacity so the manufacturing was outsourced to Romania. Still, it IS surprising that there weren't at least one or two that stayed.
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby Zs12 » Mon May 17, 2010 1:35 am

What I figured out is, that they are in use in Romania, but weren't in the past. 12 of the 219's were sold to a romanian Deutsche Bahn subsidiary after 2000 for its freight service in Hungary/Bulgaria/Romania (some photos: http://www.baureihe219.de.tl/Balkan-Bilder--ar-.htm). They are stationed in Pirdop (still in service: 219 074, 219 043; parked: 219 179, 192; spare parts donors: 219 029, 153) and Timisoara (in service: 219 025, 125; parked: 059, 096, 112, 159).
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby BogdanRa » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:55 am

I am in Romania and never never see this lok's on the rail. however I am in Bucarest and Timisoara is in West. If you want some more infos I will try to ask on Romanian forum Lokomotiv...
Specifically we have more and more Romanian models made by ACME (Amintiri Feroviare - the romanian brand side of ACME)
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby LVG1 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:24 pm

ConducTTor wrote:Germany needed this locomotive but their builders where at capacity so the manufacturing was outsourced to Romania.


That's not correct.
Because of a COMECON agreement, GDR had to discontinue their road diesel production and buy them abroad.

By the way:
The locomotives did not meet German specifications at all. Before the locos were rebuilt and fitted with German engines and other parts, they were very unreliable and spare parts were hardly available. There were times when more than half of the locos were not available because they waited for repair. That's why a part of the order was cancelled and the first locos were scraped before the last ones were delivered...
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby LVG1 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:39 pm

Marquette wrote:Eaos ep V Tillig 15236:
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European car operators can register their cars wherever they want (within European Union). So by far not all cars registered in Romania really run in Romania.

This car is owned by Steiermärkische Landesbahnen (STLB) of Austria. As far as I know, they do not operate trains to an from Romania.
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Re: Romania - Caile Ferate Romane

Postby Christtking » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:16 pm

Tillig article number 15506 it is not a CFR MARFA vehicle. I'm sorry that I'm off the subject here! It belongs to the ITL fleet. It can be suitable with Tillig article number 02668 (limited edition) 4 axle diesel locomotive 118 001 of ITL (derivate from BR 118 class), Tillig article number 02570 (no longer in production), diesel locomotive BR 120 of ITL, Tillig Bahn set 01469, Fcs style wagons and some other versions of freight cars released under 500xxx category. One more car that can be used in the ITL fleet is/was manufactured by TT CLUB BERLIN, 2 axle, type Tds-z, article number 4327-1.
About the diesel BR 119 (Ceaushescu's revenge), I used to live across the factory (Fabrica 23 August) in Bucuresti (Bucharest) and I still remember to this day (back then I was little), the workers used to pull out the engines (locomotives) with tractors, the locos were not even painted, they were gray (primer only). I am not sure if the workers had to transport the units somewhere else to a different shop to get them painted. You have to understand, back then in the communist era, (almost) everything was supposed to be kept secret from the public, especially the stuff that was manufactured for EXPORT, so most of the stuff was moved around (in big quantities) during the night. Sometimes the workers used to rev up the engines to the max (up to an hour), I think they were just testing them (supposedly). They normally would line up 3-4 locos in a row, sometimes next to each other. The locos used to make a lot of noise (this was during the day time) and the nasty smoke from the diesel was filling up the air, polluting everything, everywhere. I'm glad those days are over!
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