Rescaled Models

Rescaled Models

Postby modorney » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:54 am

I've always noticed the inside front cover of Railroad Model Craftsman, with the ads for S Scale models. Many of the buildings are laser cut kits, and an occasional 3-D print one appears (maybe a printed master and a resin kit).

Have we thought of approaching these manufacturers and asking them to rescale the kit for TT? Granted, details might not work, but I can live with that and find substitutes.

Just a thought ...
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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby dileTTante » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:29 pm

Last year I made inquiries - please check post #468
nmra-2014-convention-in-cleveland-ohio-t1950-50.html

The opportunity was there but no one did anything.
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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby areibel » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:06 pm

Mark (CSD) did it and offered some nice kits before Sazmodel closed, BTS offers some TT scale buildings and Arseny is doing a nice job offering a few as well.
A TT friend of mine approached another company (Laser Art) and asked if they would do some of their HO buildings in TT. They would, but it was pretty much the same problem as with Creative Laser Design- they wanted to make 25 at one shot and not be stuck with them. In other words, someone has to collect the orders and money, place the order and distribute the kits. Or pay up front and try to sell them all. Been there, done that (anyone want an SD45 etch, or two, or six?) It's hard to get everyone to agree, it has worked a couple times but it is a chore for whoever steps up.
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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby Arseny » Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:30 am

areibel wrote:A TT friend of mine approached another company (Laser Art) and asked if they would do some of their HO buildings in TT. They would, but it was pretty much the same problem as with Creative Laser Design- they wanted to make 25 at one shot and not be stuck with them. In other words, someone has to collect the orders and money, place the order and distribute the kits.


Al, do they have web-site, where can I see their HO-ccale buildings?..
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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby Bernd » Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:32 am

Arseny wrote:Al, do they have web-site, where can I see their HO-ccale buildings?..


Arseny,

Here's a picture of one of their kits I have in HO.

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And here's their website.

http://www.branchline-trains.com/

I'd like to forward an opinion here on TT scale kits. Having been in this hobby since the early 60's and having watched the kit makers develop products from that time to today I believe TT scale will need to develop along those lines also. I believe what is needed in "wooden laser kits" that are railroad related structures, such as engine houses, fueling facilities and supporting structures. Next on the list would be industrial type structures followed by residential structures. Four individuals could collaborate to produce kits along these lines. One could develop an engine house kit, another could develop the fueling facilities, and so forth. Again this is just a thought I'm putting out for conversation to see what develops.

I'm seriously considering getting a Full Spectrum Laser toward next fall (2016).

http://fslaser.com/Products/Lasers#Hobby

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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby j p » Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:57 am

I believe what is needed in "wooden laser kits" that are railroad related structures, such as engine houses, fueling facilities and supporting structures. Next on the list would be industrial type structures followed by residential structures. Four individuals could collaborate to produce kits along these lines. One could develop an engine house kit, another could develop the fueling facilities, and so forth. Again this is just a thought I'm putting out for conversation to see what develops.


This is somehow unfair statement, it sound like if there were no wooden laser kits.
All of the mentioned above exists already. You could find many of them mentioned even on this board.
More variety would not cause any harm, of course. TT-scale wooden structures from 1960s can be used for inspiration. They are simple. Laser technology can add details.
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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby Arseny » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:04 am

Bernd wrote:And here's their website.

http://www.branchline-trains.com/


Hello, Bernd.

Thank you; very nice buildings. I would like to get one of them... or two... or ALL! :drool: :lol:
But they seem to be a bit pricey. :( I am afraid it will be hard to sell 25 kits, especially at this price. :(

Bernd wrote:I'd like to forward an opinion here on TT scale kits. Having been in this hobby since the early 60's and having watched the kit makers develop products from that time to today I believe TT scale will need to develop along those lines also. I believe what is needed in "wooden laser kits" that are railroad related structures, such as engine houses, fueling facilities and supporting structures. Next on the list would be industrial type structures followed by residential structures. Four individuals could collaborate to produce kits along these lines. One could develop an engine house kit, another could develop the fueling facilities, and so forth. Again this is just a thought I'm putting out for conversation to see what develops.


A good idea. I beleive we can use paper/cardstock building kits (patterns), for example Clever Models or Scale Models Plans (http://www.clevermodels.net/ http://www.scalemodelplans.com/ ) or any others, as a starting point.

As for me, I am in contact with Russian fellow, who has laser-cut equipment and can develop building kit.
Coal Mine building was the first step, now I plan to get fire station, and then some other buildings. Maybe railroad station, or some residential or commercial structure.

BTW, I've discovered that Branchline Trains' "Flour Mill" building looks like a part of my "Coal Mine" building, isn't it?

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Maybe, it's some sense to modify my kit to produce "Flour Mill" also?..

Bernd wrote:I'm seriously considering getting a Full Spectrum Laser toward next fall (2016).

http://fslaser.com/Products/Lasers#Hobby


Nice device. Hope you make some kits with it! :wink:
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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby Bernd » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:44 am

Arseny wrote:Hello, Bernd.

Thank you; very nice buildings. I would like to get one of them... or two... or ALL! :drool: :lol:
But they seem to be a bit pricey. :( I am afraid it will be hard to sell 25 kits, especially at this price. :(


I paid $16.00 (dollars) for that kit. I don't think it's to high of a price. I'm sure if you ordered it that the price would be higher having to ship it over seas. I think a kit comparable in TT scale at about $9.00 to $12.00 would be very reasonable.

I was curious about the adhesive used on the back of these parts. I did a Google search on 3M adhesives. This is what I found. Expensive yes, but that is what is being used on this product.

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/Tapes/Products/~/3M-Tapes-3M-Adhesives/?Ntt=200MP&rt=rs&x=14&y=10

A good idea. I beleive we can use paper/cardstock building kits (patterns), for example Clever Models or Scale Models Plans (http://www.clevermodels.net/ http://www.scalemodelplans.com/ ) or any others, as a starting point.


Here's a good starting point.

http://store.mrhmag.com/store/p85/SPECIAL%3A__Structure_plans_-_BOTH_vol_1_and_vol_2%3A_Wood_frame%2C_stone%2C_and_masonry_structures_%28Download%29.html

I have both of them. Some very interesting plans that can be modified to TT scale. I also have several books put out by Kalmbach Publishing from the 60's and 70's that have small railroad related structures in them for possible use in TT scale.

As for me, I am in contact with Russian fellow, who has laser-cut equipment and can develop building kit. Coal Mine building was the first step, now I plan to get fire station, and then some other buildings. Maybe railroad station, or some residential or commercial structure.


Very good. Perhaps if I get my laser we can collaborate to the types of structures that could be produced.

BTW, I've discovered that Branchline Trains' "Flour Mill" building looks like a part of my "Coal Mine" building, isn't it?


Yes it is.

flour.jpg
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Maybe, it's some sense to modify my kit to produce "Flour Mill" also?..


Good idea.

Bernd wrote:I'm seriously considering getting a Full Spectrum Laser toward next fall (2016).

http://fslaser.com/Products/Lasers#Hobby


Nice device. Hope you make some kits with it! :wink:


Yes, I plan on it. We need a few more cottage industry suppliers.

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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby Bernd » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:59 pm

j p wrote:
I believe what is needed in "wooden laser kits" that are railroad related structures, such as engine houses, fueling facilities and supporting structures. Next on the list would be industrial type structures followed by residential structures. Four individuals could collaborate to produce kits along these lines. One could develop an engine house kit, another could develop the fueling facilities, and so forth. Again this is just a thought I'm putting out for conversation to see what develops.


This is somehow unfair statement, it sound like if there were no wooden laser kits.
All of the mentioned above exists already. You could find many of them mentioned even on this board.
More variety would not cause any harm, of course. TT-scale wooden structures from 1960s can be used for inspiration. They are simple. Laser technology can add details.


Not all exist. Here are 5 HO scale kits that could be rescaled to TT scale. These are the types of kits I would like to see in TT scale. If I get my laser these are the types of kits I make.

Here's an ice platform form an old HO scale kit. It can be rescaled into TT scale. It would provide a very nice rail service industry.

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Here's another rail service industry and a small country station.

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Two railroad service buildings that I'd like to see in TT scale. I'm missing the sandhouse right now.

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Re: Rescaled Models

Postby Arseny » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:16 pm

Bernd wrote:I paid $16.00 (dollars) for that kit. I don't think it's to high of a price. I'm sure if you ordered it that the price would be higher having to ship it over seas. I think a kit comparable in TT scale at about $9.00 to $12.00 would be very reasonable.


$16 is reasonable price. But current price is $23.98
http://www.branchline-trains.com/lasera ... es-ho.html

And it is quite simple kit. For example, gas station is $53.98
"Dubois Store" is $107.98...
http://www.branchline-trains.com/lasera ... al-ho.html
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