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Re: Pic of the day

Postby LVG1 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:41 pm

I think, it can't be worse than the style of "South Park"...
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby Arseny » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:54 am

Of course, stereotypes are different in different countries.
For example, Russian stereotypes about Poles: "Very arrogant and insolent; roguish; counterfeit cigarettes (food, alcohol, etc); a lot of blonde girls" :)
No "lazy" or "stupid"

P.S. As I know, "shiza" is some sort of dirty porno.
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby LVG1 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:57 am

Arseny wrote:For example, Russian stereotypes about Poles: "Very arrogant and insolent; roguish; ...


Oh, I think, I know how Russians come to this impression. :idea:
Poles are traditionally on bad terms with Russians. Once my aunt had to run if she didn't want to be bashed after she had tried to use Russian language to ask for the way in Poland.
Soviets annexed eastern Poland during World War II and kept it afterwards. Millions of Poles were displaced from their homes. So it's not astonishing that Poles don't behave in a fine way towards Russians.

Arseny wrote:a lot of blonde girls


Really?
I've not seen more blondes in Poland than in Germany. :thinking:

Arseny wrote:P.S. As I know, "shiza" is some sort of dirty porno.


I've suspected something like that. But I'ld like to know what exactly is meant. :?:
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby Arseny » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:53 pm

LVG1 wrote:Poles are traditionally on bad terms with Russians.


...but I am sure - every Russian man love Barbara Brylska! :grin:
(for her role in the famous "The Irony of Fate" film ("Ironie des Schicksals" in German)

LVG1 wrote:Soviets annexed eastern Poland during World War II and kept it afterwards. Millions of Poles were displaced from their homes. So it's not astonishing that Poles don't behave in a fine way towards Russians.


Yes, you are right. But Germans did the same thing in 1939, am I right?
Why do you mention only 1939-1991? It is a long and sad tale, as Alice in Wonderland said...
The "eastern Poland" is known as "Western Byelorussia" and "Western Ukraine" also.
In 1919-1921 there was a war between Poland and Russia (in federation with Ukraine and Byelorussia). Yes, Russian army tried to take Warsaw, but before it Polish army attacked and took Kiev.
But it is not a start of the history.
In 1772-1795 Poland was divided between Russia, Germany and Austria. There were some uprisings in Poland against Russia in 1830-1831 and 1863...
But it is not a start of the history too.
In 1605 Polish army invaded into Russia and occupied Moscow. Polish king Władysław IV Vasa claimed to be Russian Tsar.
Etc, etc., etc. There were a lot of bad things in Russian-Polish relationships (I think, in relationships with any other country too). But we can remember also Battle of Grunwald or World War II, against the Nazis.
If you want to find the pretext for the confrontation, you can find it. But if you want to find the cause for friendship, you can find it too, if you want.

There were a lot of wars between Poland and Russia, I know. But we can say the same thing about Sweden and Finland, and Turkey, and France, and Germany (of course), and England...

BTW, the only big country that NEVER was in war with Russia, was ...USA. Oddly enough. :smile:
We can remember the Cold War, but every time when the big war began, we become the allies. In 1941, in 1915, in 1863...

LVG1 wrote:
Arseny wrote:a lot of blonde girls


Really?
I've not seen more blondes in Poland than in Germany. :thinking:


Didn't you forget that we are talking about the stereotypes?
Germany? It is the country of high-quality machinery, great order (Ordnung!) and bureaucracy, good cars and roads, and Nazis. And heavy tanks. And porno-movies, of course. :grin: And beer! :grin:
But all blondes live in Poland. :smile:

Ok, let me drink some vodka from my samovar, walk with my bear and check my nuclear missile on the backyard, and then I'll play on balalaika and then I'll be able to calculate the number of blondes in Germany and Poland. :lol:

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Arseny wrote:P.S. As I know, "shiza" is some sort of dirty porno.


I've suspected something like that. But I'ld like to know what exactly is meant. :?:


I do not want to say it here... :?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... hiza-video
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby LVG1 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:16 pm

Arseny wrote:Why do you mention only 1939-1991?


It's the most recent things what forms the attitude.
And that's what I addressed.

Arseny wrote:But Germans did the same thing in 1939, am I right?


Yes, they did. But in contrast to the Soviets Germany lost the war and Poles got their country back.

Additionally, you shouldn't underestimate the displacement (what Germans did not conduct).
It's one thing to serve another lord. But losing one's home is really hard to forgive.

Arseny wrote:Germany? It is the country of high-quality machinery, great order (Ordnung!) and bureaucracy, good cars and roads, and Nazis. And heavy tanks. And porno-movies, of course. :grin: And beer! :grin:


Well, that's all true!
Although there are some reservations.
Nazis have become a negligible minority (although unfortunately conspicuous) within the recent 7 decades.
I don't know about tanks. I refused my military duty. I'm a convinced pacifist.
Porno-movies? I don't consume them; so I didn't know that the German ones were so popular.

But it's only the half truth.
You forgot to mention the lobbying, the biased justice, the brainwashing media, the cost-intensive (unaffordable) officialdom and the fact that more and more products are constructed in a way that they break shortly after warranty has expired (you shall buy something new).

Arseny wrote:Ok, let me drink some vodka from my samovar, walk with my bear and check my nuclear missile on the backyard, and then I'll play on balalaika and then I'll be able to calculate the number of blondes in Germany and Poland. :lol:


Oh, that's a great strategy!!!
I should visit you and help you... :wink:

But vodka from a samovar? That's quite really strange... :wtf:

Arseny wrote:I do not want to say it here... :?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... hiza-video


Thank you! :smile:

Like assumed, it's not worse than "South Park"... :wink:
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby Arseny » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:32 pm

LVG1 wrote:I don't know about tanks. I refused my military duty. I'm a convinced pacifist.


What?! German?! Pacifist??!! Impossible!!! :lol:

LVG1 wrote:But it's only the half truth.
You forgot to mention the lobbying, the biased justice, the brainwashing media, the cost-intensive (unaffordable) officialdom and the fact that more and more products are constructed in a way that they break shortly after warranty has expired (you shall buy something new).


Yes, yes, you are right. But it seems to me that these are the common problems, in every country, no difference, if you are in America or in Russia, in Germany or in Poland...

LVG1 wrote:
Arseny wrote:Ok, let me drink some vodka from my samovar, walk with my bear and check my nuclear missile on the backyard, and then I'll play on balalaika and then I'll be able to calculate the number of blondes in Germany and Poland. :lol:


Oh, that's a great strategy!!!
I should visit you and help you... :wink:

But vodka from a samovar? That's quite really strange... :wtf:


So, the bear or nuclear missile does not confuse you? :o

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Sorry, I've forgot to invite the bear... :lol:
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby Kolya » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:10 pm

Laptop near the samovar looks fun. :thumbup:
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby LVG1 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:55 am

За здоровье!

Arseny wrote:... high-quality machinery, ... good cars ...
LVG1 wrote:... products are constructed in a way that they break shortly after warranty has expired ...

But it seems to me that these are the common problems, in every country, ...


Really?
Where I live I can see more old Ladas on the streets than old Mercedes'... :problem:

Arseny wrote:So, the bear or nuclear missile does not confuse you? :o


I like cuddly animals! :wink:
And a nuclear missile in the backyard is more save than a repository for nuclear waste.

By the way:
Your samovar looks like the perfect copy of the one we had when I was a little boy.
But we never used it; it was only decoration. (My parents didn't know how to operate it. :shh: )
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby Arseny » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:51 am

LVG1 wrote:
Arseny wrote:... high-quality machinery, ... good cars ...
LVG1 wrote:... products are constructed in a way that they break shortly after warranty has expired ...

But it seems to me that these are the common problems, in every country, ...


Really?
Where I live I can see more old Ladas on the streets than old Mercedes'... :problem:


I am sure it does not mean that Lada is more durable car than Mercedes.
(BTW, don't forget that Lada is a bit modernized 1966 FIAT)
I beleive we must consider the following reasons:
- Maybe just the quantity of Ladas produced in 1970-2012 exceeds the quantity of produced Mercedeses?
- The spare parts for old Mercedes are much more expensive, I am sure; while the spare parts for Lada are easy-to-find and cheap
- The tax for the Mercedes is bigger
- Historical reasons. Do you live in East Germany, former GDR? I am sure there were a lot of Ladas there until 1989, but quite a few Mercedeces...

(Actually, I am quite surprised. For every Russian car-owner, driver, motorist Mercedes is the symbol of high-quality and durable car. Not BMW, not Toyota - just the Mercedes. In 1990s the dream of every businessmen and criminals was the S-class Mercedes..)

My granfather and later my father owned the 1959 GAZ-21 Volga (it was sold in 1993). In comparison with this car Lada is simply a can, made of tin. :)


LVG1 wrote:By the way:
Your samovar looks like the perfect copy of the one we had when I was a little boy.
But we never used it; it was only decoration. (My parents didn't know how to operate it. :shh: )


Oh, it is an ancient and lost knowledge! :lol:

In fact, it is very simply. Take away the upper cover. Fill it with water ("external" tank section). Put the upper cover on its place. Put some wooden chips, or paper in the inner "tube" section. Fire them. (If they do not want to burn, you can blow from the bottom). Put the smoke chimney on the top. When the chips flame well, you can add some pine cones (strobiles) or wooden chips. Wait until the water boil. Put the (dry) tea in the teapot, add boiling water, and put the teapot on the top, instead of chimney. The flame must go out. Enjoy!
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Re: Pic of the day

Postby LVG1 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:26 am

Arseny wrote:I am sure it does not mean that Lada is more durable car than Mercedes.
...
...
...


Okay, okay, you're probably right. Everything is explainable.
I only wanted to give a comprehensible example for the contradiction between "high-quality" and "intentionally limited persistence". :shifty:

Arseny wrote:
LVG1 wrote:By the way:
Your samovar looks like the perfect copy of the one we had when I was a little boy.
But we never used it; it was only decoration. (My parents didn't know how to operate it. :shh: )


Oh, it is an ancient and lost knowledge! :lol:
...


The samovar mentioned doesn't exist any more.
My parents don't want to understand that there can be a different opinion when they think, something is not needed any more. :(

I'm not sure. May be, I confuse it with something else. But as far as I remember, there was an electric heater coil. But I can't remember if it was fixed in the samovar or if it was a seperate part fitting into it. :thinking:
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