Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:39 pm

Continuing on with my turnout project. I made a couple of jigs, one to grind the half angle on the rail and a wooden, hard rock maple, soldering jig to get the angles correct. I use my resistance rig to solder the two half's together. Works pretty good.

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby ctxmf74 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:49 pm

"a wooden, hard rock maple, soldering jig to get the angles correct. I use my resistance rig to solder the two half's together. Works pretty good."

Have you tried just soldering the rails to the ties and soldering the frog in place? I find that easier as I can match the frog angle to the turnout ties as they were laid, doesn't need to be an exact 4 or whatever if something else fits better.....DaveB
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:32 pm

ctxmf74 wrote: Have you tried just soldering the rails to the ties and soldering the frog in place? I find that easier as I can match the frog angle to the turnout ties as they were laid, doesn't need to be an exact 4 or whatever if something else fits better.....DaveB


Nope, haven't tried it. I find it's easier to do it this way.

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby ConducTTor » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:52 am

How are you guys making the frogs?
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:34 am

ConducTTor wrote:How are you guys making the frogs?


Ok, I'm going to explain how I'm doing it, which will be different from what others do.

I like the Fast Track Jigs but not the price. Even though I could sell them again once done I just don't like the over all idea. Plus you would need different jigs for different frog angles. So I made up my own jig's.

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The jig in the picture was actually a jig I made for milling the rail. That didn't work out to good. The cutter would grab the sharp point of the frog and things would go pop. So I cut the jig in half and am using it on the lathe with a grinding wheel to get the half angle on one side of the rail. Instead of purchasing a "filing" jig I made a grinding jig. Much more accurate and gives a perpendicular surface. When soldering the two half's together in the wooden soldering fixture you get a much better point.

Next will be the wing rails. I'm working on this slowly so I don't have to repeat the process. For me having been in the machine tool industry for over 30 years makes this way of doing the turnouts easy. And that's why I do it this way and nobody is going to talk me out of it either.

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby ctxmf74 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:25 pm

"how are you guys making the frogs?"

For my TT layout I'm building the turnouts with PC board ties and soldering the rails to them. Frogs are filed from rail and soldered together. With this small rail it just takes a minute or so to file the frog point. Once it's pointed enough I solder it to the PC board ties using track gauges to space everything correctly, with the frog point in place the wing rails are fit to it and soldered in place using the flangeways tabs on the gauge for spacing( if using larger flanges you should use the back to back dimension of a wheels set for the spacing, just roll a truck thru and make sure it fits). Once the whole frog and adjacent rails are soldered the frog is isolated by cutting gaps ( where the pair of PC board ties are). After the frog the points are filed and installed by soldering them to a PC board throw bar. It's pretty much standard model railroading method.Attached is a shot of a frog soldered in place,it is gauged for the back to back spacing of Gold Coast wheels(same as Tillig I believe)....DaveB
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby ConducTTor » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:36 pm

Ok I see what you're doing thx.
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:41 am

After practicing turnout building I finally got a good one.

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby ConducTTor » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:31 pm

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby dwyaneward » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:37 pm

Nice :thumbup:
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