Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby TinGoat » Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:22 pm

Thanks,

Staples come in hundreds of sizes.

Go to a Staples and view a variety of staples. :grin:
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:14 pm

TinGoat wrote:Thanks,

Staples come in hundreds of sizes.

Go to a Staples and view a variety of staples. :grin:


If you would have replied on April first with the last statement I would have thought, "YA, right". :lol:

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:31 pm

Had an interesting question on the Rail Line Forum from a member regarding the pin track spikes. He asked if it would work using phosphor bronze wire from Tichy. I just happened to have some .020" dia. wire on hand and made a spike.

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Looks pretty good. You can make it any length you want. The interesting part was how that member was going to use the spike. He wanted it long enough to go through the table so he could solder a bus feeder under the layout instead of using telephone cable wire. I think it would work out great. The wire solders easy and you'll hardly notice it soldered to the rail, inside or outside.

And moving right along to the next portion of this post. I received my order of Clover House TT scale ties and turnout ties. With the making of the phosphor bronze spike I made a quick little test section for the wood ties. I want to try out making spikes and spiking the Code55 rail to wood ties. My resin track bed came in very handy for laying out the wood ties.

First some masking tape. Tape it down with the sticky side up.

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Next stick down the resin tie strip.

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Next add the tie's in between the resin ties.

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A 9in. section filled with ties.

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Pull up the resin tie strip carefully so you don't pull up any wood ties.

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Walla, a 9in. section of tie strips ready to glue down.

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I spread some glue on a piece of Styrofoam.

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And stuck the ties in the glue using a piec of wood as a straight edge to make sure the ties are in a straight line.

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I'll post more once the glue has dried. That'll be tomorrow.

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Tom Dempsey » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:36 pm

I think the phosphor bronze wire will be too flexible for this application, but, I've never tried it so I'll be awaiting your report.
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:54 pm

Tom Dempsey wrote:I think the phosphor bronze wire will be too flexible for this application, but, I've never tried it so I'll be awaiting your report.


Hopefully I'll have some results before noon tomorrow.

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby TinGoat » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:46 am

For comparison.
On the left is a standard staple that I clipped.

Very close in size with the small Micro Engineering spike in the middle.

On the right is a Perfect HO spike which is thicker.

There's also a bit of code 55 rail to show relative size.
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:31 pm

I have both the Micro Spike and the regular HO spike. I do like the looks of the staple. Going have to go to Staples and see what I can find.

Thanks for the input.

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby gerhard_k » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:38 pm

TinGoat wrote:For comparison.
On the left is a standard staple that I clipped.

Very close in size with the small Micro Engineering spike in the middle.

On the right is a Perfect HO spike which is thicker.

Micro Engineering also makes #30-108 Micro spikes, which are 3/16" long, 3/4 the length of the Small spikes, which are 1/4", and presumably also a bit thinner. Has anybody used these? Are they long enough to get a secure grip?
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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:56 pm

I did a bit of grade testing. I've written it up in a new thread here.

http://www.ttnut.com/grade-testing-t2613.html

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Re: Otter Creek Falls Coal & Lumber Rwy

Postby Bernd » Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:15 pm

gerhard_k wrote:Micro Engineering also makes #30-108 Micro spikes, which are 3/16" long, 3/4 the length of the Small spikes, which are 1/4", and presumably also a bit thinner. Has anybody used these? Are they long enough to get a secure grip?


I used the Micro Spikes here for the first test of the cast resin track. I didn't go through the tie since even the Micro spike is large as compared with the cross section of the tie and it would also obliterate the simulated tie plate.

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The spikes are a little hard to see. I used them mainly to hold the track down while the glue dried. I used Pliobond to glue the track down. The spikes hold well in Homasote and I'm sure just as well in wood. I don't think they would work well in Styrofoam. I don't think anything would work well in that.

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