Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby Biased turkey » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:11 pm

Hello everyone,
Being completely unfamiliar with TT scale, I purchased the Tillig Starter Set ( in a cardboard suitcase ).
My big plan is to model a metric gauge Belgian vicinal Railway steamtramway in HOm scale by converting that TT rolling stock .
But first, to get my feet wet, I'm starting in a smaller scale: TT scale, metric gauge ( using N scale 9mm track ).

The tramway has a paper shell ( so far ) on an N scale Bachmann Plymouth frame.
The high sided wagon had a paper shell on a Fleischmann , it now has a plastic shell and the painting is almost complete.

I don't have a layout yet, so here are some pictures I took on my triple scales display ( N, TTm and Hoe )

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Here is a picture of the prototype, unfortunately, it shows one of the few Belgian Vicinal lines that were NOT metric, but standard gauge.

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What a lovely tunnel
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I understand that I'm in for a huge task here because I'll have to scratchbuild all the structures.


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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby AstroGoat760 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:26 pm

It looks like you are off to a good start there.

Good luck, and make sure to post plenty of photos.
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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby Arseny » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:01 am

Funny tramways.
But maybe it would be better to remove window/door apertures?..

Maybe it will be interesting for you: some TTm (9mm gauge) tramways are available.
Most popular is Gotha T57 German tramway from Karsei Modellbahn

http://12mm.ru/viewcard.php?id=62!61!73!65!2f!69!64!65!61!73!2f!69!64!65!61!31!30!2f
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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby Biased turkey » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:26 am

Thank you AngrySailor302 and Arseny for taking some of your valuable time to make me feel welcome on this forum.

I decided to model the Belgian Vicinal Railway in TTm scale because being a Belgian I found , a few years ago, an article in the French mag "Voie Libre" showing a small vicinal TTm layout ( see picture below ).
That layout was built in order to prove that one can have fun and enjoy a small layout built on a low budget:
As one can see on the picture, the rolling stock shell was built from cardboard and installed on Fleischmann N scale frames.

Having plenty of N scale track ( I'm modelling Canadian prototypes in N scale ) I decided to have a go at some TTm layout.
I was pleased by the result and decided to improve by replacing the paper shells with some styrene ones.

Thank you for the link Arseny.
The Belgian Vicinal Railway , until about 1965 was carrying passengers too, so those TTm tramways might help me.

Here is a link to the Belgian Vicinal museum.
Go to the English page and click on the "Rolling Stock item in the left menu.
http://www.asvi.be/en/index/index.htm

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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby Marquette » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:58 am

What an amazingly nifty subject! Can't wait to see more of your work. :)

If you ever build a TTm vicinal layout, maybe you could have one station where it meets with the SNCB - there's a few pieces suitable for the late 50s or early 60s, like the Nohab...
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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby Biased turkey » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:51 am

Thank you Marquette for taking some interest in that topic.
The vicinal line I want to model is the Poulseur-Trooz line.
There was not one but 2 interchanges with the SNCB ( Belgian standard gauge railways ) on that line, because both Poulseur and Trooz have an SNCB station.
Here is a picture of the Poulseur interchange:
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Another view from Poulseur.
My house was located on the top of the cliff ( the result of some heavy quarrying operation ) so, as a child I had a first class view on the Poulseur railroad station.

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I'm old enough ( 63 ) to have seen the steam to diesel transition era in Belgium.
I never realised that the 1st SNCB diesel were built under license from Nohab.
To be honest, I never heard about Nohab until you mentioned it in your reply.

I agrre with you that it's a fascinating subject

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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby railtwister » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:39 am

Please keep posting pictures of your progress, it looks like a fascinating project. I think the architectural detail built into the tunnel portal in one of the pictures is incredible, it shows great pride in craftsmanship not usually seen in the USA. Quite inspiring, but you are right, it will be a challenge to your modeling skills with all that scratch building that will be needed.

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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby scaro » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:07 am

ask if you have any problems getting particular wheels that you need. TT is challenging, TT narrow gauge (while able to use many N wheels) can also be a challenge if your prototype uses odd wheel designs or 'standard gauge' size wheels.
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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby Biased turkey » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:24 pm

Thank you scaro for your help about the wheels.
At least I won't have the problem with the bicabine steam tramway, the wheels are hidden by the skirts.

The high sided wagon is complete, here are some more pictures.

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The last picture shows the high sided wagon in front of the big brother ( an Oe scale wagon built on a Fleischmann Magic Train frame.

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railtwister: As you say, it shows great pride in craftsmanship.
Don't forget that in those times manpower was dirt cheap so the railways companies could afford to build fancy tunnels.

I found a link to a youtube footage about that fascinating vicinal railway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akuLrawMr7w


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Re: Newbie, my Belgian Vicinal TTm rolling stock

Postby CSD » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:43 pm

Very cool project.

Kittler (http://mb-kittler.de/store/) has a limited selection of TTm that might work for you. The selection for TTe is even better.
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