Lionel conversions

Re: Lionel conversions

Postby 1 tt guy » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:29 am

I did a search on this locomotive but can't come up with anything. Can you post some pictures? Specifically of the wheels and connecting rods.
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby member13 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:31 pm

Depending on the size of the wheels you could potentially use one of the BTTB or Tillig models as a donor for the wheels, transmission and motor. You may also be able to use an N scale motor if the BTTB or Tillig version doesn't fit the chassis. I have no idea what the inside of that loco looks like so some pictures would be quite helpful.
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby 1 tt guy » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:29 am

On second thought, motorizing the tender will likely be a LOT easier. Look at the bttb/tillig class 50/52 for a tender to harvest parts from (those are motorized).
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby areibel » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:10 pm

The HP TT mechanisms are too big to fit as they are. I've thought about using a Bull Ant (www.hollywoodfoundry.com), get a four axle drive with spoked wheels- I don't know how to do the motor (yet), I was thinking maybe put it in the tender? You'd still have to make the drive rods from scratch, and modify the Lionel cylinders to take them - plus the valve gear? Running doesn't seem to hard, but getting it all right, welllll,
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby scaro » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:31 pm

For scratchbuilt steam I'd suggest your first port of call might be joining the 3mm Society in the UK. They kind of specialise in this in a 'TT-ish' scale. Other options might involve finding something similar made by Tillig et al, but not sure you'd find anything much similar.

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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby AstroGoat760 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:43 pm

The valve gear is solid and non-movable, so it would all have to be replaced. Some of Varney's HO scale valve gear looks like it would match. Right now the engine is in it's tin, and the tin is in it's box, and that box is inside yet another box, and where that box is right now....? I am not sure, but when I find it, I will take photos of the engine.
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby AstroGoat760 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:07 pm

Found the damn box, and here are the photos.....
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Here is Zeke for size comparison...
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Terry had to copy daddy and put one of his engines into the fray....
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The tender.
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The tender's belly....
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The locomotive....
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and it's belly...
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The connecting rods are rather loose and tend to jam up if you try to roll the engine on the desk. I am going to check with the 3mm society and see if they have any drivers of similar size and style.
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby CSD » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:12 pm

It looks to me like the motor and driving wheels from a Tillig BR86 would fit right in there.
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby AstroGoat760 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:26 pm

The drivers for the Class 86 are too small. I checked that myself.

That and the drivers for the Class 86 were 1400mm --> 55.12 inches tall(diameter) , whereas the drivers on the J-Class Hudson were 70 inches tall.
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Re: Lionel conversions

Postby CSD » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:46 am

Too bad.
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