Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby Arseny » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:38 am

I've fount Jewel TT 70' Steel Coach kit on the Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jewel-TT-70-Ste ... 35c461a920

Does anybody know something about this kit?
I can't understand, what is the prototype?
Maybe, somebody have some photos of ready model?..
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby areibel » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:22 am

Hi Arseny,
They actually can be built into a nice looking model. They used a stamped metal side with the rivets embossed that folds around to cover the ends too, with a little care they turn out very nice. Pretty similar to any old TT car, a wooden roof and base, HP trucks (if they're included) and some nuce diaphram castings for the ends.
They would be accurate for a long era, many were built in the late 20's and they lasted up until at least the laste 50's, and some places even longer. When Conrail was the local railroad they had a very similar car that was the crew car on the work train, and that was in the 1990's! They had cut a dooe into the side and blocked off several of the windows, but you could tell where it came from!
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby Arseny » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:41 am

Do you mean it is "heavyweight" car? Something like this?

31317_Heavyweight_Passenger_Chicago__Northwestern.jpg
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby areibel » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:27 pm

It would be very similar to that car. You have to add the extra details on the roof and under side, but the sides are pretty nice. The trick is to make sure when you put the sides on that the body is the exact length, if you folow the directions closely so the ends wrap around to the right spot they're nice. If you leave the body a litttle too long you wind up with a gap and the rivet lines will be off (don't ask how I know!) Build the body, then check it before you mount the sides. If it's too long you can sand down one end or the other, if it's a little short you can add in a thin shim to make it come out right.
I did make a mistake earlier, these have the same diaphram ends as the HP stramliners. Starline coaches are what I was thinking of, they have the nicer ends.
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby j p » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:53 pm

One of those is on the way to me by post. My plan was to make some resin copies.
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby Arseny » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:32 pm

j p wrote:My plan was to make some resin copies.


I planned to ask RailTT to do it. :)
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby j p » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:23 pm

Was RailTT selling resin copies?
Maybe I missed something? I could use some of his boxcars unassembled to make them with different ends :)
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby Arseny » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:01 pm

RailTT did not make resin kits of passenger kits yet.
But I hope he will do it in future.
If we have some nice prototype, he can make some copies, I think.
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby j p » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:33 pm

Arseny wrote:RailTT did not make resin kits of passenger kits yet.
But I hope he will do it in future.
If we have some nice prototype, he can make some copies, I think.


My question was about his current production.
As I understood he was selling RTR models. So he makes parts, assembles the model, paints it, sells it and then I have to cut it in pieces to make it prototypically somehow correct for my use. Do you see the point? Selling it as a kit would help (or making other versions available)
It does not really help me much if he makes a copy when I want to make different versions of the heavyweight cars.
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Re: Jewel 70' Steel Coach kit

Postby Arseny » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:47 pm

I think of course he can sell you any car or vehicle as a kit.
For example, Marquette purchased a kit of wooden boxcar...
If you need some version, we/you can discuss it.
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