HP steamer VS Tillig switchs

HP steamer VS Tillig switchs

Postby Murad » Mon May 21, 2012 7:04 pm

Do you have any problems running HP steamers on Tillig switchs like 83332 and other?
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Re: HP steamer VS Tillig switchs

Postby j p » Tue May 22, 2012 2:36 am

No problem with Tillig's EW2 (83331, 83332, 83380, 83426), EW3 (83341, 83342, 83382, 83427) is better though.
The radius of EW2's curve is 631 mm, the radius of EW3's curve is 984 mm.
Big problems with Tillig's EW1 (83321, 83322, 83326, 83327, 83430, 83431) - also some Tillig's engines stop on those because of the frog made of plastic. The geometry of EW1 (radius 353 mm) is not suitable for larger H.P.Products engines anyway. Try to avoid EW1 :)
Tillig's 3-way turnout has frogs made of metal, so the engines do not stop on it, yet the geometry (R 353 mm) is still not suitable for H.P. Products large engines.
Even if you don't have any of the large engines yet, think about the future. Perhaps you'd buy one if you win in Vegas.
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Re: HP steamer VS Tillig switchs

Postby Murad » Tue May 22, 2012 4:44 am

I do have 2-8-0 and there is a problem with it. when it goes straight on the switch it's ok but it derails when it turns. The front truck goes straight instead of turning. The wheels goes ON the switch rail in the place where the switch rail and stock rail joints. After this is jumps out from the rails and casuses derailment. The BTTB locos have no problems with this switch. It looks like the flange on the HP loco is too small for this rails =( Is there any somution of this problem?
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Re: HP steamer VS Tillig switchs

Postby Murad » Tue May 22, 2012 5:23 am

Dremel solved the problem =)
The deraliment was because of the low assembling quality. Had to make the rail joints more smooth and to cut the frog rails
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The problem with the frog
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Re: HP steamer VS Tillig switchs

Postby scaro » Tue May 22, 2012 5:44 am

yikes. the shoddy quality of NEM TT wheels (really no better than N scale) and the issues we keep seeing with points (from various manufacturers) may explain why TT remains a relative backwater.

N can do points that work, i'm amazed TT can't.

a manufacturer should be ashamed to sell a point that requires such mods before a loco will run on it.
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Re: HP steamer VS Tillig switchs

Postby j p » Tue May 22, 2012 6:48 am

I never had the problem with the frog, probably because I assembled most of the turnouts myself out of Tillig's kits.
But your another problem with the points is not unknown to me. I sharpened the tips on the points - making the transition from the rail to the point much smoother. No problems after that.
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