G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby Taxari » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:12 pm

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Hey, thanks. I used an old Microscale decal in N scale 60-356. I think the colour of the gondola isn't the right one :wall:
The flatcar got the decals from the same sheet.
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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby scaro » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:27 pm

B&O lettering of that era was yellow, as were C&O and WM.

i take it you used some peresvet bogies under it, taxari? that combination of elliptical and spiral springs is unusual.

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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby Taxari » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:42 am

Yes I used some peresvet bogies because they run very well and are really inexpensive (here in germany). Did anybody have prototype fotos from such a B&O Gon for me? Thanks, Jörg
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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby Arseny » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:50 am

Do these Russian trucks correspond to any American prototype?
If yes, we could use Peresvet trucks for American stuff, not only Gold Coast ones...
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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby Marquette » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:37 am

Well, I know that Peresvet has one truck that is similar to a Vulcan truck, and of course the arch bar works...
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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby Arseny » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:41 pm

Marquette wrote:Well, I know that Peresvet has one truck that is similar to a Vulcan truck, and of course the arch bar works...


Do you mean this one? Or some other?

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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby Marquette » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:02 pm

Arseny: I do indeed.
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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby scaro » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:12 pm

Arseny wrote:Do these Russian trucks correspond to any American prototype?
If yes, we could use Peresvet trucks for American stuff, not only Gold Coast ones...


not exactly. i am not sure but i think the combination of spiral and elliptical springs is pretty rare.

as for the four-spring cast freight truck, i'm not sure. it probably needs modifications, at least the filling in of some of the holes on the sideframe.

the archbar is probably closest to american practice.

however the thing with these trucks, apart from working well and being cheap, is that they are is a touch big for US trucks, about 6" wheelbase and pretty hefty in the width of the sideframes too. i'm fairly sure the russian truck wheelbase is 6'.

i find in terms of modelling at 1:113 they are bang-on for aussie wheelbases, and look good with the finescale wheels from the 3mm society.
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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby Arseny » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:40 pm

scaro wrote: i'm fairly sure the russian truck wheelbase is 6'.


For these trucks (if I am not mistaken, it is MT-50 type) the wheelbase is 1800 mm = 5' 11"
For some other trucks the wheelbase is 1850 mm.

Russian trucks - MT-50 and 18-100 type (also known as TSNII H3-O)

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Re: G31 gon and clones (a thread for Rob M's gon project)

Postby scaro » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:39 pm

thanks arseny.

if peresvet ever do the two-spring one on the left, i'd certainly be interested!

are there other russian TT manufacturers who do trucks?

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