France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

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France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby Marquette » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:21 pm

France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Not much is available ready-to-run, and the Union-TT CC72000 diesel and de Dietrich railcar are quite difficult to find. Even so, there's a good body of material available to model the SNCF of the 1950s.

Steam locomotives
040-D (Jago BR55.25)
050-TA (Jago BR94.5)
150-D (Kittler BR58.10)
150-X (Roco BR44)
150-Y (Tillig BR52)
230-C (Jatt BR38.10)
230-F (Jatt BR38.10)
232-TC (Jatt or MMS BR78.0/T18)

Diesel locomotives
A1AA1A62000 (UMF/www.eaos.pl SM48 or Kemtron RS2 - kitbashed)
CC72000 (Union TT - kit)
Y50100 (Tillig V36 - RTR):
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Electric locomotives
CC7000 (BTTB-Start CC7100 - kitbash from 2 shells)
CC7100 (BTTB-Start CC7100 - kitbash from 2 shells)
CC20002 (BTTB-Start CC7100 - kitbash from 2 shells)

Trainsets & railcars
X3700 (Union or s.e.s. De Dietrich):
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Passenger & freight cars
A few freight cars have been released over the years in SNCF versions; for others, many of the existing models can be repainted or kitbashed. For passenger cars, in the 1950s and early 1960s - the ideal time period to model the SNCF in TT given locomotive availability - many cars of German design/manufacture were used, and many of these types are available in TT.
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby Marquette » Sun May 16, 2010 5:53 pm

A small number of French-prototype rolling stock is or has been available in RTR form from various manufacturers, the majority of which is era III, thus suitable for the 1950s and 1960s.

The only passenger car (so far) is an ex-German three-axle compartment car, which was produced by BTTB (and possibly Tillig?).

C3(pr) ep III BTTB 13139:
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Five freight cars are known (to me) for era III:

Ommps ep III Tillig (gon - no pic found yet)

Lw ep III BTTB 4133:
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Tw ep III Tillig 14231:
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Wine car ep III Tillig (yes, these really did have a prototype!):
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4-axle tank car "Primagaz" ep III BTTB 5413:
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Three cars are suitable for the 1970s to early 1990s (eras IV and V), and one for the 1990s to the current time (era V):

Uagps ep IV PH-Modell
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Eas-x ep IV-V Tillig 15225:
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Kils ep IV-V Krokodil:
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Rils ep V Tillig 15542:
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby j p » Sat May 26, 2012 3:07 pm

Some more SNCF ready-to-run from WESA and Rokal might be available through ebay

WESA's SNCF class 180
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Rokal's BB 9200
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby Arseny » Sat May 26, 2012 3:31 pm

I am afraid that WESA locomotives are not compatible with any other TT-scale stuff - they are 13mm gauge, not 12mm, so they will not work on Tillig, BTTB, Rokal, HP, TriAng or any other rails... :(
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby j p » Sat May 26, 2012 6:42 pm

Arseny wrote:I am afraid that WESA locomotives are not compatible with any other TT-scale stuff - they are 13mm gauge, not 12mm, so they will not work on Tillig, BTTB, Rokal, HP, TriAng or any other rails... :(


They would need only new wheels or modification of the original. Rokal locomotives may also need new wheels because they can run only on Rokal rails. And Lionel locomotives can not run on any rails at all without new wheels :)
So this would be only a minor problem.
The scale is a bigger problem, it is 1:100.

I haven't got any WESA locomotive, but when looking at http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/5/7/2/9/7/6/webimg/491367415_o.jpg it seems to me that it should be able to run on 12 mm too.
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby Arseny » Sun May 27, 2012 1:52 am

j p wrote:They would need only new wheels or modification of the original. Rokal locomotives may also need new wheels because they can run only on Rokal rails.


To be accurate - Rokal can run on Tillig's RAILS well. They can't run on modern TURNOUTS. :)
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby richardedmonds » Sun May 27, 2012 6:29 am

Arseny wrote:I am afraid that WESA locomotives are not compatible with any other TT-scale stuff - they are 13mm gauge, not 12mm, so they will not work on Tillig, BTTB, Rokal, HP, TriAng or any other rails... :(


Arseny that is not quite right. I actually have two Wesa locomotives the UP turbine and the SNCF locomotive both 12mm gauge they run on triang track but the oversized flanges rub on the rail chairs slightly. Incidently the are labelled as TT gauge on the box
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby scaro » Sun May 27, 2012 7:08 pm

i think the online literature says that the scale was 1:110 and that they altered the track gauge at some point from 13mm to 12mm.
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby Christtking » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:01 pm

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To all: I've found another, just to fill in the gap. The model is a 4 axle tarpaulin covered fright (goods)wagon, type Shimms, manufactured by PH MODEL (article number 231), of the SNCF (FRET), era IV, hand made model, limited edition, collector's item (?). I'm not sure if the model was based on a real life prototype. Back in 2004 the model was worth US$ 30. For that kind of money it sure lacks a lot of details. My model was altered a little bit. I've added a brake's man platform and stir up steps, air cylinders for the braking system (on the bottom), steps (1X) at each end behind the buffer beam, hand brake wheels (4 spokes) with connecting bar (rod), hand rails (handle bars) at each end, rods on the bogies (part of the braking system) and anchors.
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Re: France - Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français

Postby Christtking » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:15 pm

To Marquette: I realised you posted a photo of Tillig art. # 14231 that is in gray version. I have the former Zeuke/BTTB version art. # 4231, but black. I think it has different operational number on the wagon also.
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