Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Robert22 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:23 pm

That would be awesome. The closest thing to a new train line to Vancouver will be that small line their trying to reopen between Granville island and Cambie.
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Robert22 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:10 pm

So where can I find information about the BR-81? I've been looking on google, but it appears difficult. I just want to know the when and where it was used and years it ran.
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby dileTTante » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:29 pm

There's a short wikipedia page about the BR81 here. (Searched using 'BR 81 lok'). http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG-Baureihe_81 Google translation isn't good but gives basic information.

This page has a list of different locomotive types and appropriate rolling stock. http://www.worldrailfans.info/Articles/Europe/GSuitableStock.shtml
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Arseny » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:58 pm

There is an English version too :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_81

It is a heavy shunting locomotive (switcher). It was built in Germany (of course) in 1928, based on the 3-axle BR80.
(BTW there is BR80 available in TT too, made by Roco)

Only 10 units were built in 1920s. (Werner Zeuke loved the rare locomotives :) ).
Later DRG (German state railway company) planned to order some more locomotives, but the order was cancelled, due to the Second World War.

After the war all the BR81 locomotive stayed in the West Germany and worked until 1960s.
So, no DR's BR81 existed! Only DRG or DB!
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Robert22 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:15 pm

So that would mean this set has an Era II engine pulling Era III cars/ i.e. post war? Guess I'll be starting with the west, and eventually moving into the east, I wonder if the cars will be interchangeable.
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Arseny » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:10 pm

On the eurotrainhobby.com site this set is declared as Era III.
This locomotive is suitable as well for Era II (if marked as DRG) as for the Era III (marked as DB).
The cars are good for Era II and Era III, and it seems to me that for Era I too! But look at the lettering and color schemas.
(Before 1919 they were brown)

The old pre-war cars were in service in West Germany and in the East Germany too.
The railway company of West Germany was "Deutsche Bundesbahn" (DB), and the railway company of East Germany was "Deutsche Reichsbahn" (DR).
Before 1949 (until Germany was divided into West and East parts) the German railway company was "Deutsche Reichsbahn-Gesellschaft" (DRG). But it seems to me that DRG used "DR" mark since 1943.

I do not think there was a big traffic between West Germany and East Germany...

Old BTTB company produced mostly DR cars and locomotives, so there are a lot of DR stuff available. (Now Tillig produces both DR and DB stuff, and DRG too)
If you love steam locomotives - they were almost the same in the East and in the West, but there were different lettering schemas; DB's locomotives used another smoke deflectors; some DB's locomotives used special tenders ("Kabinentender", with the cabin for the conductor), and also some (very few) locomotives were in service only at the West (like BR81).
Also there was one unique steam locomotive, designed in the East Germany after the war - BR23 or BR35 (it was renumbered). Of course, it is not suitable for DB.
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Zs12 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:48 am

Arseny wrote:Also there was one unique steam locomotive, designed in the East Germany after the war - BR23.10 or BR35.10 (it was renumbered).

The DR (east) had indeed some more unique steamers, for example the BR 50.40, 83.10, 65.10 and all the Reko locomotives (= reconstruction) like the BR 01.5, 03.10, 50.35/50.50, 52.80, 58.30, ... and the GR locomotives (= general reparation) too. :!:

The BR 80's didn't run a long time for the DR itself, right, but they still shunted in different railroad-own RAWs (= locomotive and car plants) until the mid-1980's, for example in Leipzig-Engelsdorf.
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Arseny » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:05 am

lüTTe wrote:The DR (east) had indeed some more unique steamers


Ok, sorry. :) I am sure, you know more about German locomotives... :)

lüTTe wrote:The BR 80's didn't run a long time for the DR itself, right, but they still shunted in different railroad-own RAWs (= locomotive and car plants) until the mid-1980's, for example in Leipzig-Engelsdorf.


I know that there were some BR80 in BR, but we are talking about BR81.
As I know, all of them were used only by DB, in West Germany. Am I right?
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Zs12 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:29 am

Arseny wrote:Am I right?

Yes! You just switched between both classes in this post:
Arseny wrote:It is a heavy shunting locomotive (switcher). It was built in Germany (of course) in 1928, based on the 3-axle BR80.
(BTW there is BR80 available in TT too, made by Roco)
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After the war all the BR80 locomotive stayed in the West Germany and worked until 1960s.
So, no DR's BR80 existed! Only DRG or DB!
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Re: Finally Joining the Community with BR-81

Postby Arseny » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:02 am

Sorry! I meant BR81 of course!
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