Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:13 pm

Started working on my FA kits this weekend and I figure I'll post as I go.

The BR 218's wheels, truck centers and, wheelbase are not exact for the ALCO FA but they're damn close. So, unless you're building a full chassis, trucks, etc., this is the way to go.

The chassis will need some modification (everything can be done with a Dremel) so remove all parts from it.
Below are pics of the material removed from both the chassis and a bit from the shell. I've included a virgin chassis for comparison.

The end of the chassis with the removed material will be the back of the locomotive. This is important as it will set your truck centers where they need to be relative to the shell (body).
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby Arseny » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:57 am

Very nice and accurate work!
As for me, I do not have Dremel yet, so I used usual saw...

How do you plan to connect the couplers?

Just link to my locomotive (I didn't finish it yet):
using-br218-as-for-alco-fa-building-t1523.html
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby AstroGoat760 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:02 am

That also works for the Kemtron FAs as well. During the "test runs" of the BR 218 chassis at the 2013 NTS, I had placed my Kemtron FA shell on the chassis, to see how close it fit. Just a little cutting is needed on the chassis to make it work.
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby ConducTTor » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:14 am

Arseny wrote:As for me, I do not have Dremel yet, sow I used usual saw...


I also used a normal file.

Arseny wrote:How do you plan to connect the couplers?


Not sure yet. Will figure it out when I get there.

Arseny wrote:Just link to my locomotive (I didn't finish it yet):
using-br218-as-for-alco-fa-building-t1523.html


:doh:
Totally forgot about that. I would have added my "experience" there as well. Oh well....
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby milwrd1 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:22 pm

The chassis will need some modification (everything can be done with a Dremel) so remove all parts from it.
Below are pics of the material removed from both the chassis and a bit from the shell. I've included a virgin chassis for comparison.


How "soft" (or hard) is the BR 218 chassis material? Was the material easy to remove? Assuming you used one of the Dremel grinding wheels, did the wheels get clogged with material? :?: :?:
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby ConducTTor » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:15 pm

milwrd1 wrote:
The chassis will need some modification (everything can be done with a Dremel) so remove all parts from it.
Below are pics of the material removed from both the chassis and a bit from the shell. I've included a virgin chassis for comparison.


How "soft" (or hard) is the BR 218 chassis material? Was the material easy to remove? Assuming you used one of the Dremel grinding wheels, did the wheels get clogged with material? :?: :?:


I believe the material is zinc so it's softer than other metals. It was relatively easy to remove. The Dremel grinding wheel did get clogged but not too badly. Dremel sanding "cylinders" get clogged though.
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby richardedmonds » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:03 pm

Anybody know if the Piko version will work on this kit as well as the Tillig one does
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby Arseny » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:36 pm

Do you know the Piko locomotive with the appropriate dimensions?
As I know, Piko does not product the BR 218...

And does it make sense? The start version of Tillig's BR 218 costs approx. $110-$115, the same price with the Piko locomotives...
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby richardedmonds » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:04 pm

Well done Arseny I was looking at an HO version you are right that Piko dont do a TT version
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Re: Elmer's ALCO FA & Tillig's BR 218 chassis

Postby areibel » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:09 pm

OK, stupid question time...
Looking down on the chassis you can read the part number "39639" on the board- is the left side the front or the right? I'd hate to get it together and have to pull it apart to swap wires!
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