Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby Christtking » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:02 pm

To LVG1: Without upseting you, I just noted that on one of the photos that you've posted earlier (top one) former Soviet communist logo is present on one of the side engine rooms window, since we all know that former Tzechoslovakia was part of the Communist block under the Iron Curtain, I thought it has something do do with it.
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby LVG1 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:12 pm

You mean this photo?
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The locomotive is extremely clean and wears an additional tag. So it's obviously kind of presentation run with additional non-ordinary lettering.

Hammer and sickle only symbolized Soviet Union, not entire Socialism.
It's extremely improbable that this emblem was present in regular service in Czechoslovakia.
...or can you imagine that Amtrak would decorate their locomotives with red maple leafs?
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby Christtking » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:29 pm

That's the photo! I was worried about where I can find such symbol as a TT add on decal (dry tranfer?), so I don't have to worry anymore. If I may add a thing. I grew up (in the 70' till the late 80's) in the communist system that ruled Roumania and I remember that the original Romanian flag was altered by the Communist Party by adding some stupid logo in the center of it and there was another flag that was used by the Communist Party (Rumanian), it was blood red with the Soviet symbol (yellow color) in the middle of it and maybe some other thing on it. So the Russians had a harsh impact over the Eatern bloc countries, I think you've heard stories.
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby LVG1 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:57 pm

Christtking wrote:..., I think you've heard stories.

You mean, aside from growing up in GDR? :wink:
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby j p » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:30 pm

LVG1 wrote:You mean this photo?

The locomotive is extremely clean and wears an additional tag. So it's obviously kind of presentation run with additional non-ordinary lettering.

Hammer and sickle only symbolized Soviet Union, not entire Socialism.
It's extremely improbable that this emblem was present in regular service in Czechoslovakia.
...or can you imagine that Amtrak would decorate their locomotives with red maple leafs?


At first I thought it was a temporary "decoration" for "celebrating" bolshevik revolution or something like that - and I wanted to mention it here earlier. It was not a part of the standard paint scheme.
But then I looked at the other photos and found out, that this "decoration" was present on both engines for a longer time, maybe during their entire service at CSD. It was there for sure in 1974 and until 1976.
Christtking's observation was correct and it is supposed to be on the model if you want to have it 100% correct. Czechoslovakia was occupied by Soviet forces since 1968. Perhaps someone wanted to please the "masters"?
Additional pictures are at this site: http://www.prototypy.cz/zobrgal.php?gallery_name=T679_2g0
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby Christtking » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:15 pm

To LVG1 & jp: Thank you both! I like it when we work together and we are on the same page!
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby ConducTTor » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:21 pm

Were these 2 locomotives based on the 130 or 131?
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby j p » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:22 am

ConducTTor wrote:Were these 2 locomotives based on the 130 or 131?


They were based on 131. Length 20620 mm, max. speed 100 km/h.
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby ConducTTor » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:39 am

thx
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Re: Czechoslovakia - Ceskoslovenske Statne Drahy

Postby LVG1 » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:17 pm

ConducTTor wrote:Were these 2 locomotives based on the 130 or 131?

They were a mixture of both.
Series 130 had a top speed of 140 km/h (87 mph) and was equipped with dynamic braking.
Series 131 had a top speed of only 100 km/h (62 mph) but lacked dynamic braking.
These were the only differences between both.

The Czechoslovakian version had a top speed of 100 km/h but was equipped with dynamic braking (like the Bulgarian version).
But these two locomotives had another very individual feature:
They had the large windshields of early series 130 but the small cab-side windows of later series 130 and entire series 131. They were the only locomotives with this combination of windows.
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