Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

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Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby Marquette » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:57 pm

Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Diesel locomotives
51001-50138 (or more) (UMF/www.eaos.pl SM48)
51501-515xx (Kemtron RS2)
51601-51605 (or more) (Kemtron FA2)
61601-61621 (Roco or Tillig M62/V200/120)

Trainsets & railcars
51xx (BTTB/Tillig DR 171 or Kres DR 172)

Some pictures:

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5166 - ex-DB 171. Evidently, behind it is an ex-DB passenger car!

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61611

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51605

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51016

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5161
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby CSD » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:13 am

I am positive that some CKD T435's and T669's ended up in Cuba, but I can't find the damn pictures.
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby Zs12 » Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 am

I came across one cuban freight car photo last few days: http://www.steamfreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/cuba17204main.html.
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby scaro » Sun May 13, 2012 6:43 pm

with shots like this one by matt herson from railpictures archive ... i suspect more people should be modelling cuban. it's the one american system that can be easily modelled in TT... :wtf:

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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby scaro » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:30 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOuqIHfeBRs

this cuban layout has been doing the rounds of the exhibition circuit in the UK. the combination of rolling stock is enlightening for a TTer ... cuba mirrored the rise and fall of TT's fortunes in 1:1 scale, modelling US proto in the 1940s and 50s then went eastern bloc thereafter, so neatly fitting into what's available in TT.

they had a lot of PS1s, fowler clones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Norte_FCNC_boxcar.jpg ... and probably USRA outsided framed) boxcars too. and traction ... the hershey railroad is a textbook 1930s US operation.

getting information on cuban railways is verrrry hard ... does the marathon sulk (sorry, trade embargo) extend to model railroads ? you'd think so.
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby Marquette » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:39 am

Getting info: it may have changed now, but in the past it was just illegal to photograph railways. One guy who went down wanted to take a picture of an FA, but the guy in the yard told him no, it's not permitted. So then the visitor spots the 46 Ford (or similar) parked there, he asks the railwayman, "whose car is this? It's gorgeous!" Turns out it's the railwayman's car, he's proud of the compliment, so the visitor asks if he could take some photos of it, railwayman instantly agrees! So the visitor got several good pictures of the FA with only a 46 Ford slightly obscuring the view.
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby scaro » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:18 pm

that's interesting ... was that in the pre-castro era too? because there are very few photos of the consolidated railways of cuba and precursors as well. i'd thought at least the FAs and RS2s might be easy to find.
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby j p » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:58 pm

Please add this to the list:
CSD's T458s were sold to Cuba in 1990. Kitbash from Tillig's T435. Etch for T458 is probably available in Czech and Russia.
(Note: T435 = ЧМЭ2 1st series, T458 = ЧМЭ2 2nd - 5th series). The main difference is weigth and different cab.
Here is a picture of the Cuban engines ready for shipment from Czechoslovakia:
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby Arseny » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:07 pm

It seems to me that different versions of ЧМЭ2 (and T435 ?) had different trucks also. Early versions had "Pennsylvanian type" trucks. BTW they can be used to build SW1200, if I am not mistaken.
The locomotive on the photo have new trucks already.
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Re: Cuba - Ferrocarriles de Cuba

Postby j p » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:34 pm

Arseny wrote:It seems to me that different versions of ЧМЭ2 (and T435 ?) had different trucks also. Early versions had "Pennsylvanian type" trucks. BTW they can be used to build SW1200, if I am not mistaken.
The locomotive on the photo have new trucks already.


Yes, 1st series had Pennsylvanian trucks, 2nd series had Pennsylvanian trucks on most engines and CKD trucks on the last two, 3rd-5th series had only CKD trucks.
Another difference was in the length: T435/ 1st series was 12560 mm, T458 was 13360 mm. (that makes 6.7 mm difference in TT)
I would recommend to wait for SW1200 from MTB.
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