Coal hopper molds

Coal hopper molds

Postby Arseny » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:03 pm

I've found that "ttduxbury" is selling molds for TT-scale coal hoppers on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TT-Scale-Coal-H ... 3a78a69e30

Does anybody of us try to bid there?
It would be great if anybody continue production of hoppers....
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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Bill Dixon » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:29 pm

I've asked a local modeler who casts a lot N-Scale models for his own use and sale in the store, to look at the pictures and see what he thinks of the condition of the molds. If he thinks they are OK I will chase after them - to a reasonable $$ limit of course. Someone else may want them a lot more than I would.

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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Richard-B » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:09 pm

Arseny wrote:I've found that "ttduxbury" is selling molds for TT-scale coal hoppers on Ebay:<snip>
Does anybody of us try to bid there?
It would be great if anybody continue production of hoppers....


These are molds that Jim O'Brien is selling.. as he apparently liquidates both his TT collection and the Coastal Engineering TT-scale hobby business that he ran.

The molds shown result in the resin parts shown here:
cer_hopperparts1[1].jpg
CER Hopper Parts
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and the finished car is:
CER Hopper-55ton.jpg
CER 55ton Hopper
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Note that RTV molds have a limited casting life... often something like 25 to 50 castings before they become damaged. This probably means that these molds would not result in "production", even if they are first-generation and unused. In any case, copyright on the product goes with the casting "masters", not with the molds... and I suspect that those may have gone elsewhere.
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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Arseny » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:54 am

Ok; understood. As for me, I just wanted to get some open hoppers. :smile: (although I would prefer offset-side hoppers)
The question about the copyright on the product needs some clarification; but I do not see a lot of manufacturers in TT :) and I doubt that any manufacturer will buy the copyright separately and will impede anybody of us to cast such hoppers...

Ok, Bill, if you want to buy this molds, I will not bid on it.
Please, notice my interests; if you buy it and will produce some hoppers, I'd like to purchase some... :wink:

Please, inform us (or me) about the results.
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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Richard-B » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:20 am

I received the following from Jim O'Brien:
At 06:23 AM 8/18/2012, eBay Member: ttduxbury wrote:
Richard,
As far as I am concerned who ever buys the molds can do whatever they want with them.

When I stopped producing the TT cars I handed over most of my molds to Elmer. I think that I also turned over what masters that I had left although I don't remember. I really don't know if Elmer made or sold any of my cars. Since the TT market was and is so small, I never even thought about the right to produce commercially.

These molds do have some life in them, but if someone were to use them commercially, they should produce some parts from them and then make new molds from those parts. Actually this hopper car also makes a great HOn3 hopper. I don't know if this helps with your question.

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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Arseny » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:33 pm

Just to remember the topic about this car:

fishbelly-side-ribside-twin-hopper-pvm-cer-t1019.html
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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Arseny » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:34 am

Bill Dixon wrote:I've asked a local modeler who casts a lot N-Scale models for his own use and sale in the store, to look at the pictures and see what he thinks of the condition of the molds. If he thinks they are OK I will chase after them - to a reasonable $$ limit of course. Someone else may want them a lot more than I would.

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Bill, what was the result?
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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Bill Dixon » Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:12 pm

Arseny wrote:
Bill Dixon wrote:I've asked a local modeler who casts a lot N-Scale models for his own use and sale in the store, to look at the pictures and see what he thinks of the condition of the molds. If he thinks they are OK I will chase after them - to a reasonable $$ limit of course. Someone else may want them a lot more than I would.

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Bill, what was the result?


They are on the way. Should have them in two weeks or so.
Will keep you posted.

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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby Arseny » Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:15 pm

My congratulations! 8-)
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Re: Coal hopper molds

Postby WillYart » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:34 am

Woohoo! I noticed the auction but realized I'd probably just let them sit around. Let us know if you're going to make some hoppers.
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