Chilliwack Show 2017

Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:58 am

CFRiad wrote:Here are first 5 of the 6 options I tried

... and here is option 6
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Option 6 -- Yard entrance moved to the top-right corner of the layout; uses existing yard ladder
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:06 am

Using the preferential voting system, I am voting for:
  1. Option 6; the main argument for this is that there is less need for reaching from the inside over the yard to operate switches on the outside of the layout
  2. Option 1; this works, fits tightly and uses well the table surfaces
  3. Option 2; I would like this if I saw a way to eliminate the overlap
Options 3-5 are not worth considering.

Thoughts, anyone?
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:25 am

CFRiad wrote:Option 2; I would like this if I saw a way to eliminate the overlap

Option 2b?
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Option 2b -- is there enough room on the right to fit yard loop and the main line loop next to each other?
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:42 am

The more I look at this, the more I like Option 6. Here is an updated version for seamless operation in both directions.
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby Bill Dixon » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:02 pm

No issue with the overlap. I was going to cut the two module to make things fit.
Would make them easier to transport.

I like option six. Need a connection at the other end. Might make the display longer. Would we be connecting to the main lines or the inside line? Also what about the reverse curve in the lead?

Voyteks modules will replace the three red modules and one other on the top right of the display.

Looking like I will only be out to Chilliwack Sunday.
Could do a Friday night setup if you wanted to get things done early.
Would also eliminate the need to rent a trailer as I could be there by 7 PM.

Designing a display is limited by the size of the tables.
Have to juggle to make things fit on the tables.
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:12 pm

Bill Dixon wrote:[...]I like option six. Need a connection at the other end. Might make the display longer. Would we be connecting to the main lines or the inside line? Also what about the reverse curve in the lead?

Voyteks modules will replace the three red modules and one other on the top right of the display.[...]

Designing a display is limited by the size of the tables.
Have to juggle to make things fit on the tables.

As you are saying, the tables put a lot of constraints on the layout. Voytek has 3 double modules. See if you can fit this on tables. It is 1 metre (2 modules) longer than your last design. Also see if the access way to the inside is wide enough.

If, at its widest, the yard loop cannot fit on the table, we can make a table extension with a piece of plywood and two clamps.

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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:28 pm

Bill Dixon wrote:Looking like I will only be out to Chilliwack Sunday.
Could do a Friday night setup if you wanted to get things done early.
Would also eliminate the need to rent a trailer as I could be there by 7 PM.


:thumbup: Yes, a Friday set-up works for me. Terry, Graeme and I can manage operating on Saturday.
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:58 pm

CFRiad wrote:See if you can fit this on tables.

When you do this, consider:
  • the new yard diversion module is standard
  • the new narrow connection module to the yard is 667x150
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby Bill Dixon » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:36 pm

I did some doodling with your idea.
If the adaptor module can be shortened to 600mm it works better.
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Here are two setups, the top with Voyteks modules and the bottom with out.

Shortening the adaptor module allows the tunrback loop to line up with the module joins. This allows the yard to be made one or two modules longer.

It also allows this to be used at the BCSME setup.
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Re: Chilliwack Show 2017

Postby CFRiad » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:48 pm

Bill Dixon wrote:If the adaptor module can be shortened to 600mm it works better. [...] Shortening the adaptor module allows the tunrback loop to line up with the module joins.

Bill Dixon wrote:Need a connection at the other end.

Hmmm... How about this: if we shorten the adaptor module to 579 mm, then we are getting future-proof. When we will make a mirrored second set of diversion modules, we will make the total yard length a multiple of the standard module length.

This comes at a price though: the minimum radius of the yard entrance is now 310 mm, down from 353 mm. It is tight, but all our rolling stock should be able to negotiate it, including Terry's BR-01.
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