Arseny's layout

Re: Arseny's layout

Postby Arseny » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:06 am

krokodil wrote:There was also a very nice old fashion tram in Evpatoria. Is it still there?


Yes, it is. I did not visit Evpatoria ever, but as I know it still works.
BTW, it can be modelled in TT 8-) because it uses Gotha T57/B57 streetcars, available in TT/TTm (9mm gauge)
Also they got some relatively modern Tatra KT4SU cars.

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Article in Wikipedia (in Russian):
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%95%D0 ... 0%B0%D0%B9
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby krokodil » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:22 am

Thanks, I ride them in 1985!
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby Arseny » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:10 am

I tested my layout.
New SW1200 can climb up the hill with 2-3 Gold Coast's cars. But hardly can do it with 4 cars or more.
What's your opinion? Is it acceptably or not? Should I use traction tires, or shold I make the gradient lower?

I used yellow glue, not screws, so it will be difficult to rebuild it...
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby krokodil » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:11 pm

Arseny wrote:I tested my layout.
New SW1200 can climb up the hill with 2-3 Gold Coast's cars. But hardly can do it with 4 cars or more.
What's your opinion? Is it acceptably or not? Should I use traction tires, or shold I make the gradient lower?

I used yellow glue, not screws, so it will be difficult to rebuild it...


I would suggest to reduce the gradient. I do not like tires at all. :boohoo:
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby railtwister » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:46 pm

krokodil wrote:
Arseny wrote:I tested my layout.
New SW1200 can climb up the hill with 2-3 Gold Coast's cars. But hardly can do it with 4 cars or more.
What's your opinion? Is it acceptably or not? Should I use traction tires, or shold I make the gradient lower?

I used yellow glue, not screws, so it will be difficult to rebuild it...


I would suggest to reduce the gradient. I do not like tires at all. :boohoo:




Agreed. I don't like tires either, frequently they come off, and they do have a limited lifespan. You may not always be able to secure replacements. I think you need to be able to pull a minimum of six cars up the grade (more if you want to use cabooses). I would use the minimum grade you can. As well as the minimum vertical clearance (about 2.25" inches from railhead to bottom of upper level decking) plus thickness of track, roadbed, and sub roadbed.

Good thing you tested it before you got too far into the build to correct it!

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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby milwrd1 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:18 pm

I agree. The gradient is to steep. I would rebuild and make it lower.
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby Arseny » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:37 am

Ok. Where is my chisel? :smile:
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby ctxmf74 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:04 am

Maybe try some of the bullfrog snot traction goop on a couple of wheels and see what it does? I've heard it can make a difference but all my recent tracks have been flat so I've never tried it.....DaveB
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby Arseny » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:43 am



I reduced the gradient. The train of 6 cars goes ok.
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Re: Arseny's layout

Postby gerhard_k » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:14 pm

Arseny wrote:
I reduced the gradient. The train of 6 cars goes ok.

Thank you! Now I'm glad I spoke up. Just for info, can you tell us what is the actual grade now, and also the radius of the curve? That will be helpful data for others (including me) who will be looking at this decision.
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