ACS-64

ACS-64

Postby AstroGoat760 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:22 pm

I am looking into the possibility of making a TT scale model of the ACS-64, which is the latest electric power unit used by Amtrak. Does anyone have advice on a particular model to use to use as the base for the modification?
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Re: ACS-64

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:52 am

I've been thinking about this model as well. It's a Siemens design based on European prototypes which exists in TT. I haven't done the research before but since I have nothing better to do, I'll do it now and report the findings.
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Re: ACS-64

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:13 am

I'm having trouble finding all the important dimensions for the various locomotives in the family. Looks like Piko's BR 182 has the closest wheel size coming in at just 1.4" oversize (at 1:1 scale). I can't find the ACS-64 bogie size anywhere though to compare. Can't find the 182 bogie centers either. I have the model but it's packed away in storage so I can't measure it. For reference the following models of the family exist in TT: BR182, BR183, BR189, Vectron.
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Re: ACS-64

Postby Richard-B » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:38 pm

I believe that the ACS-64 is (at least in part) a Siemens Vectron derivative...
perhaps the TT-scale Piko Vectron would be a starting point?
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Re: ACS-64

Postby ConducTTor » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:24 pm

Richard-B wrote:I believe that the ACS-64 is (at least in part) a Siemens Vectron derivative...


Correct. But I'm not sure if wheel sizes, truck centers, and truck axle spacing are the same.
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Re: ACS-64

Postby MacG » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:27 pm

Based on this picture, I would think, it has the same truck axle spacing like the electric Vectron, with 3.000 mm.

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The wheel sizes is at the electric Vectron minimal greater 1250 mm (new) / 1160 mm (worn).
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Re: ACS-64

Postby krokodil » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:29 pm

You cannfind the Siemens soecs here ( in German)

http://www.siemens.com/press/pool/de/ev ... ron_DE.pdf
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Re: ACS-64

Postby MacG » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:16 pm

and in English

https://www.mobility.siemens.com/mobili ... nic-en.pdf

But there are also no data about truck centers and truck axle spacing. :thumbdown:
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Re: ACS-64

Postby ConducTTor » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:16 pm

MacG wrote:Based on this picture, I would think, it has the same truck axle spacing like the electric Vectron, with 3.000 mm.

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The wheel sizes is at the electric Vectron minimal greater 1250 mm (new) / 1160 mm (worn).


Wikipedia gives ACS-64 wheel size as 1117mm new / 1041mm worn. Truck center distance as 9.9m / 32.5'. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_ACS-64
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Re: ACS-64

Postby krokodil » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:42 pm

MacG wrote:and in English

https://www.mobility.siemens.com/mobili ... nic-en.pdf

But there are also no data about truck centers and truck axle spacing. :thumbdown:



Truck axle spacing is there, 3000 mm for electric locomotives and 2700mm for diesel electric locomotives.

http://w3.usa.siemens.com/mobility/us/en/interurban-mobility/rail-solutions/locomotives/Documents/Amtrak_DataSheet_2013_LR.pdf

Here you can even find the ACS specs. The truck centers are 9900 mm.
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