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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby Bill Dixon » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:41 am

AngrySailor302 wrote:Here is a link to the thread I started on February 20, 2010, that has a scanned copy of the 1954 HP Products catalog and the April 1954 Gandy Dancer dispatch on it: north-american-tt-scale-booklets-and-newsletters-t555.html


I see no indication of a publication date but mine appears to a later issue with a green cover and eight more pages otherwise it looks very similar in content.

Worth scanning, hopefully later this week.

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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby ConducTTor » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:07 am

This reminds me that I was asked to scan the Railtech catalog and still haven't done so. Someone keep reminding me please.
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby AstroGoat760 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:09 am

ConducTTor, please scan the Railtech Catalog.
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby AstroGoat760 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:12 am

AngrySailor302 wrote:ConducTTor, please scan the Railtech Catalog.

ConducTTor, please scan the Railtech Catalog.
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby ConducTTor » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:27 am

HAHAHAH!
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby AstroGoat760 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:32 am

ConducTTor wrote:HAHAHAH!


AngrySailor302 wrote:
AngrySailor302 wrote:ConducTTor, please scan the Railtech Catalog.

ConducTTor, please scan the Railtech Catalog.

ConducTTor, please scan the Railtech Catalog.



Please, don't make me quote myself again.
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby areibel » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:41 am

Bill Dixon wrote:
Steam Locomotives listed were:
0-6-0, 2-6-2, 2-8-4, 4-4-2, 4-8-2, 4-8-8-4
0-8-0, 2-8-0, 2-10-2, 4-6-2, 4-8-4, 2-8-8-4,
2-6-0, 2-8-2, 2-10-4, 4-6-4, 4-6-6-4, 2-8-8-2.
I have not yet found ads showing that all were produced.


They were pretty clever at HP, they produced that array of steam locomotives with a minimum of parts.
If you wanted RTR, you were a little limited- for example, the 0-6-0 and the 2-8-0 used the small drivers, and there are two different boilers (but they could interchange). The cabs were the same, the details were the same, even the side rods were too, there's just an extra link on a four axle. The only thing that had to be produced specifically was the frame. And if you bought an 0-6-0 and wanted a 2-6-0 or 2-6-2, just send them a buck or so and they'd send you the trucks, screw them on and you're in business! I don't know if you could actually order a 2-6-2 or 2-8-2 (small drivered) from the factory or if you had to build it yourself, but it didn't take much if you did.
Their whole locomotive line was that way, you can change a Mikado (medium drivers) into a Berkshire, a Mountan or a Northern. The 4-4-2 used a shortened Pacific frame with the big drivers but the same boiler size used on an 0-6-0 or 2-8-0. The articulateds are a little bit of a mystery. The first one they offered was the 2-8-8-2, but they are very rare-
they used the small drivered consolidation chassis, and I've heard that they were a bugger to keep on the track- it didn't like the 15 inch radius (or smaller) curves. The 4-6-6-4 uses the mid size drivers, and supposedly does better with the overall wheelbase being a little shorter (I've never run mine except on my little rollers). The only really unique steamer was the Ten Wheeler, 4-6-0. It has a brass boiler and tender, it still uses the same mid sized drivers like the Mikado but everything else was "new". They came out late, and it's too bad, they're really nice engines, and they must have had some production problems. Some of the later ads in RMC keep saying "it's coming" but it must have taken a while!
And one other thing to look for- in the older RMC's there is a TT coulmn, "Off'n the Table Top" by Glyn Lewis. He was always mentioning the new stuff that was coming soon in TT. The only bad thing is a lot of it he mentions never shows up- maybe TT invented "vaporware"? I think a lot of guys had good intentions about producing something, they made a lot of noise about it but then they found out the hassles of actually getting something produced.
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby scaro » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:13 am

certainly there's a family look to the HP locos i have seen. so much so that they'd be ideal for a 'fantasy' railroad. i do like their approach of minising parts as such interchange of bits enables you to do all sorts of things.
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby ConducTTor » Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:10 am

Will get to it as soon as I can. I promise.
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Re: A Short History of HP Products + TT-Scale from Magazine

Postby CaTTwoman281 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:40 am

AngrySailor302 wrote:ConducTTor, please scan the Railtech Catalog.

What he said. He asked me to remind him to remind you.
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