50' Railbox

50' Railbox

Postby Rob M » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:10 pm

Here is a first attempt at the sides. The door should'nt have been sunken in but the rest looks fairly close. Going off the photo below I came up with a size of 5.2"W x 1.2" high, have'nt yet found any dimensions for these other than 50' 6" inside.

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Also, there seems to be a few different types of doors on these. Not sure which type is most common or desired.I kind of like this style with the two different door types.
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Re: 50' Railbox

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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby jmass » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:43 pm

now this is what ive been waiting for! :wave: :dance: :clap:
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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby Arseny » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:15 pm

Can you tell me few words about the prototype?
It is a car from 1970s, not suitable for 1950s, am I right?..
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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby Rob M » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:24 pm

Looks like these came out in 1974. I have to admit when it comes to trains I don't know much other than I like them.
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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby areibel » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:03 pm

I'll have to dig through my old magazines, the Trains.com index says there were drawings in RMC in the Feb. 75 and July 80 issues. If I've got those issues I can scan them and send them to you, I'd love to have a couple of these!
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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby Rob M » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:14 pm

Hmm, I may have those issues myself.

The end piece went pretty easy, not much to them detail-wise.
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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby Rob M » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:37 pm

Found the July '80 issue. It's the ABOX two door. Looks like the two door I posted a pic of. So long as the dimensions are the same this should be all I need.
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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby railtwister » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:31 pm

Hi Rob,

Wouldn't making the door as a separate piece be an advantage? I would solve the recess problem, it would give the builder a choice of having a car with open or closed doors, it would be easy to offer the car with different types of doors, and the same doors could be used on other types of cars. It could also save cutting effort since you won't have to cut the rest of the sides deeper to avoid having the doors recessed. The only negative I can think of is you'd probably want to use thinner stock than what you used for the gondola sides to do the doors so you won't have to remove a lot of material. How do you hold the stock on the table, clamps or vacuum?

As for a car from the 1950's for Arseny (and the rest of us), how about a Milwaukee horizontal ribbed boxcar? The Milwaukee had them in both 40' and 50' lengths, some with two doors, some with four doors.

It looks really good so far, Rob!
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Re: 50' Railbox

Postby Rob M » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:51 pm

The door being recessed was just my bad math skills :oops:

It could also save cutting effort since you won't have to cut the rest of the sides deeper to avoid having the doors recessed.

Not Really. The ends of the sides need to be pretty thin (guessing around .03" would be correct but will have to be around .06" or a little more)). The only other way to get them thin is to do two-sided machining and that gets more complicated. But, doing the doors as a separate piece may be an option.

The newer models with the double doors have a 16' opening. The original with one door has a 10' opening. I don't see a problem doing both types of sides so long as the ends & roof are the same size.

...Milwaukee horizontal ribbed boxcar?

Maybe
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