1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby Marquette » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:54 am

Erie 78000-78499

ERIE 78249 - 3.jpg

Builder's photo. This is the earlier "small diamond" scheme.

ERIE 78249 - 2.jpg

View of the B end showing of the Buckeye end that was unique to Erie's cars (and a very small number of US Navy cars).

ERIE 78246.jpg

Photo from the late 1950s showing the later "large diamond" lettering scheme.

Built: 6-1936
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: wood
End type: Buckeye
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Viking
Trucks: National Type B (78000-78249), AAR 50-ton cast sideframe(78250-78499)
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Erie 78500-78999

ERIE 78500.jpg

Builder's photo. Note that in the "early diamond" scheme, the circle inside the diamond is black. The best paint match for Erei's version of freight car red is Floquil's ATSF Mineral Brown. The ends, roof, underframe and trucks were painted black on cars of this series.

Built: 1-1940
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Viking
Trucks: National Type B
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Black ends, roof, underframe and trucks.

Erie 79000-79199

ERIE 79141.jpg

In-service photo circa 1943. Like the previous series, cars in this series had the ends, roof, underframe and trucks painted black.

Built: 3-1940
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Viking
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Black ends, roof, underframe and trucks.
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby Marquette » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:08 am

Florida East Coast 21001-21050

FEC 21001.jpg

Builder's photo. Entire car was painted freight car red with white lettering.

FEC 21009.jpg

Photo from 1961. These cars were repainted into this light blue scheme at the beginning of the 1960s.

Built: 3-1945
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Florida East Coast 601-650

FEC 610.jpg

Builder's photo of FEC 610, one of the non-ventilated cars. Paint schemes same as on 21000-series cars, with the addition of "Railway Express Agency" titles.

FEC 639.jpg

In-service photo of FEC 639, one of the ventilated cars - note the vents. Lettering same as on the non-ventilated versions, except adding a "Ventilated Express" title.

Built: 4-1945
Brake wheel: Universal
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: express trucks (I don't recognise the design)
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Express service. Some ventilated - 607, 616, 617 and 639 known to have been ventilated version; 610 known to be non-ventilated version.

Georgia Railroad 19900-19974

Built: 3-1945
Brake wheel: Miner
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Gulf, Mobile & Ohio 5000-5683

GM&O 5074.jpg

Builder's photo in the "Rebel Route" scheme used through the 1940s; this scheme seems to have disappeared in the first half of the 1950s.

Built: 5-1942
Brake wheel: Equipco
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated (all except 5683 - Superior)
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: 9-rung side ladders
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby scaro » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:37 am

thanks, marquette. do like the classy FEC scheme.
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby Arseny » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:02 pm

Thank you, Marquette!

So, the Gold Coast model of the Canadian National boxcar is correct enough, if we'll do not take into the consideration the incorrect numbers and ASF trucks instead of ASF ones?..
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby richardedmonds » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:21 pm

M thanks a lot, I really have learned more from you in a couple of postings than I learned over the last ten years. You are a very knowledgeable teacher mate I applaud you.
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby Marquette » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:56 pm

Gulf, Mobile & Ohio 8000-8999

Built: 9-1940
Brake wheel: Equipco
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: Flanged
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: 9-rung side ladders

Indiana Harbor Belt 10000-10599

IHB 10127.jpg


Built: 3-1944
Brake wheel:
Roofwalk:
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Lot 729-B

Illinois Terminal 6000-6099

Built: 5-1937
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Illinois Terminal 6100-6299

Built: 4-1941
Brake wheel: Equipco
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/4 ACF
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Kansas City Southern 17000-17449

KCS 14136.jpg

KCS 14136, photo taken in 1955. Between 1954 and 1957, all cars of this and the following series were renumbered into the 14000 range. Note the left side - instead of two separate grabs as is usual, the KCS cars had a section of ladder.

KCS 17296.jpg

KCS 17296, photo taken in 1956, not yet renumbered.

Built: 1-1937
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: renumbered into 14000 series

Kansas City Southern 17450-17749

Built: 1-1937
Brake wheel:
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: renumbered into 14000 series

Louisville & Nashville 90000-90499

L&N 90350.jpg
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Builder's photo.

Built: 12-1941
Brake wheel: Miner (90000-90299), Universal (90300-90499)
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Louisville & Nashville 90500-90999

L&N 90999.jpg

Builder's photo. Note the Miner brake wheel and the 7-panel Superior door.

Built: 9-1941
Brake wheel: Universal (90500-90749), Miner (90750-90999)
Roofwalk: US Gypsum (250 cars), Apex (250 cars)
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated (90500-90749), 7-panel Superior (90750-90999)
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Louisville & Nashville 91000-91343

Built: 5-1942
Brake wheel: Miner
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby Marquette » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:09 pm

Lake Superior & Ishpeming 2201-2225

LS&I 2218.jpg

In-service shot taken in 1940 or 1941 - the car still carries "NEW" in its reweigh date, meaning it's less than 18 months old at the time this photo was taken.

LS&I 2224.jpg

In this view the car is 29 years old - and looks it! At some point, the LS&I added their red diamond herald to at least some of the cars in this series.

Built: 7-1940
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Morton brake step. End panels on roof have corrugations like the rest of the roof on the sides without lateral running boards.

Lehigh Valley 61000-61299

Built: 1941
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: Duryea
Notes:

Lehigh Valley 61300-61499

Built: 4-1941
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: 7-panel Superior
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Lehigh Valley 61500-61899

Built: 3-1942
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Minneapolis & St Louis 50400-50498 (even numbers)

M&StL 50446.jpg
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Builder's photo. As built, these cars were a standard freight car red with white lettering, but around 1952 the M&StL began to repaint them into an attractive green livery with yellow lettering - the lettering was the same style, only the colours changed.

Built: 10-1941
Brake wheel: Equipco
Roofwalk: uncertain, but metal
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Minneapolis & St Louis 53000-53998 (even numbers)

Built: 10-1944
Brake wheel: Superior
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Minneapolis & St Louis 54000-54998 (even numbers)

Built: 9-1945
Brake wheel: Superior
Roofwalk: US Gypsum
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Superior
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Minneapolis & St Louis 56000-57198 (even numbers)

M&StL 56572.jpg

This scheme was introduced in the 1960s, replacing the previous green/yellow livery. It is overall freight car red with white lettering.

Built: 12-1947
Brake wheel: Superior
Roofwalk: US Gypsum
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby Marquette » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:50 am

Maine Central 6100-6499

MEC 6240.jpg

As-delivered scheme - freight car red with white lettering.

MEC 6444.jpg

New scheme introduced in the second half of the 1950s - overall green with yellow lettering.

Built: 1942
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

Nashville, Chattanooga & St Louis 18500-18999

Built: 1942
Brake wheel: Miner
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

New Haven 30000-30999

NH 30499.jpg

Builder's photo.

Built: 7-1941
Brake wheel: Miner (30000-30498), Universal (30499-30999)
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Doors painted black

New Haven 31000-32499

Built: 10-1944
Brake wheel: Miner (31000-31449, 31500-31649), Klasing (31450-31499, 31650-31699), Ajax (31700-32499)
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Superior (31000-31349, 31500-31649), Youngstown corrugated (31350-31499, 31650-32499)
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Doors painted black

New Haven 32500-32999

Built: 1944
Brake wheel: Ajax (32900-32999), Miner (32500-32899)
Roofwalk: Apex
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Murphy rectangular panel
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: Doors painted black

New York, Chicago & St Louis ("Nickel Plate Road") 15000-15499

NKP 15000.jpg

Builder's photo.

Built: 8-1936
Brake wheel: Ajax
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Viking
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes:

New York, Chicago & St Louis ("Nickel Plate Road") 15500-15999

Built: 9-1937
Brake wheel: Ajax (15500-15699), Equipco (15700-15899), Champion (15900-15999)
Roofwalk: wood
End type: 4/5 Dreadnaught
Door type: Youngstown corrugated
Roof type: Viking
Trucks: AAR 50-ton cast sideframe
Underframe: AAR standard
Notes: 8-rung ladders. Ends painted black.
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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby scaro » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:29 am

Marquette wrote:[
M&StL 56572.jpg

This scheme was introduced in the 1960s, replacing the previous green/yellow livery. I'm none too sure what colours this one used, though, but I believe it too was green and yellow.



Hmmm are you sure? This is the old scheme:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=334683

but as any owner of a Bachmann or Lionel toy train will know, it was followed up with red and white, and a very pretty scheme it was too...

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=286345

The Louie rates high on the coolness factor for having RS1s in about a dozen different schemes, very colourful Fs and for running passenger with some very late doodlebug survivors. My grounding in American railroads came from Janes World Railways 1950-51, 1951-52 and a bunch of old copies of 'Railroad' magazine from that era and because of the colourful schemes and logos, I was sold on the M&StL from an early age.

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Re: 1937 AAR Standard Design Boxcar Survey

Postby Marquette » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:01 am

Thanks for that, Ben! I've edited the entry to reflect this information.

(See, though? 60s. It's too new to exist! :P)
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