1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby Arseny » Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:40 am

They are looking like 1926 Buicks, not 1936...

Are they exactly in scale, or maybe they are oversized?
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby tomvanhoy » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:14 pm

They are listed in the Gandy Dancer catalogue when Ed Fetyk was the owner, that is all I know for now.
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby milwrd1 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:39 pm

tomvanhoy wrote:They are listed in the Gandy Dancer catalogue when Ed Fetyk was the owner, that is all I know for now.


This is correct, they are listed in Gandy Dancer catalog D, page 25. The three cars listed are the 1914 Ford Touring (no top), 1927 Packard Touring (top down) and the 1936 Buick Roadster. Price was 25 cents each. GD catalog D was prepared by Ed Fetyk.
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby areibel » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:11 pm

Does anyone know when Ed Fetyk took over from Sherman Dance? The original ad Arseny posted only mentioned the Ford and Packard, but after a little more digging (I have too much stuff in boxes!) I found this for a Buick-
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The other "original" packages I have look like the later GD ones, they only say "Gandy Dancer RR Models, Authentic TT Models"
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby tomvanhoy » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:35 pm

Talking to John Harmon the other night and he indicated that there was also a very nice pick-up truck too. Haven't seen it though and haven't seen it advertised anywhere.
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby Arseny » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:51 pm

tomvanhoy wrote:Talking to John Harmon the other night and he indicated that there was also a very nice pick-up truck too. Haven't seen it though and haven't seen it advertised anywhere.


I have seen old pickup truck here:
http://www.thortrains.net/ttscale/ttmini1.html

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According to this site it was made by Lester of The Loft

I've found some info about it also on the old vesions of ttscale.com website, using "Web WayBack Machine" http://web.archive.org/. "The Loft" offered some TT-scale vehicles in early 2000s
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby Arseny » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:25 am

areibel wrote:I found this for a Buick-
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It still looks like 1926 Buick however, not 1936.

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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby milwrd1 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:37 pm

areibel wrote "Does anyone know when Ed Fetyk took over from Sherman Dance?"

I've been unable to locate the date, other than it was later than 6/52. I looked at the Gandy Dancer A, B and C catalogs and came up with the following:

No info on the automobiles in the first Gandy Dancer catalog, catalog A.

The supplemental information provided with catalog B provides the first info on the automobiles, and is shown below. Only the Packard and Ford are mentioned. Note the scan may be difficult to read, the contrast was not good and may require some expanding to read.

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For reference, the cover from catalog B is shown next. Note the date of 6/52 in the lower right corner, it is very difficult to see, the date is actually on the last tie at the bottom of the page, underneath SE dance on the second tie.

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Next reference of the automobiles comes from page 24 of catalog C. The Packard, Ford and Buick are mentioned, as well as a Pickup Truck and Dump Truck (dumping body). Hatched out (reason unknown) is the reference to a Dual Wheel Van. Sketches and prices are shown for all 6 vehicles. This scan may also be difficult to read.

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Last, the cover from catalog C, which is undated. Catalog D, mentioned in previous posts, is also undated. There is not any mention of the 3 trucks in catalog D.

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So...catalog research shows a total of 6 vehicles made it to the catalog stage, at least 3 (Packard, Ford and Buick) have been confirmed to have been produced, with a starting date of sometime in 1952.
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby areibel » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:17 pm

OK, that makes sense! I had an empty envelope for a pickup and a dump truck but there wasn't anything in the package. The blue pickup I'm not sure comparing it to the drawing, but the dump truck looks close?
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One caveat- these were mixed in with a bunch of other die cast cars and trucks but the construction looks similar to the GD cars, the others have a single piece axle with peened ends like a Tootsie Toy.
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Re: 1927 Packard in TT from Gandy Dancer

Postby tomvanhoy » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:00 am

Al,
I have the dump truck bed used on a flat car as a load with some other junk. My guess is that is the ONE!
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