TT Scale. The Ideal Scale.

The deal is, I love trains so I don't limit myself to just one country's prototypes (I figure my layout will be a city on the border of all countries that have cool trains so they will all have to come through ). There is a thread on US prototypes and other than German, the only ones I'm aware of are Russian so here is a thread on them.

I have one T3P-10 made by Peresvet (a good friend of mine has the 2T3-10 and an M62) and I'm wondering if any of you have had experience with Peresvet products. The specific nag I have is with the drive-train - the gearing seems a bit off (VERY high revs for a given speed) and the drive shaft linkage - a ribber tubing between the motor and drive shaft (I'll take pics of this to post) - makes for non-linear driving characteristics. Have any of you experienced the same? I love the loco and would like to mod the drive-train but frankly I don't know what is available out there for a relatively simply mod. Or do I need to manufacture parts myself?

Are peresvet and tt-club the same company? Same with tt-modell and kruger?

TT-club is the German dealer of Peresvet products.

Some of Peresvet´s prdoucts keep quite high quality, but not all, so you should be a bit careful when buying them. A good idea is to check the internet for tests and comments before ordering them. But generally they keep a lower technical standard than German TT makers.

I also like Russian models. I have not yet a layout but a small collection of rolling stock. Recently, I bought a series ТЭ steam engine which is the Russian version of German series 52. The model was made by German manufacturer MBS which is in some way a branch of Tillig. Although this model was quite expensive, a lot of details didn't match the Russian prototype. On Russian sites, there were some critical comments about that. However, after some reworking, It looks now quite nice. I also have a ТО engine, which I made from a German series 56, and a ЧМ-32 diesel engine, which is an older model from Berliner TT-Bahnen.

Jörn

@ jpachl,
I've been very happy with the Peresvet model overall. I had to add a second set of flywheels on the drive-shafts, change out the bulbs to LEDs (the bulbs just kind of hovered in the middle of the cab area and lit everything up including the body shell), and I've also added some weight to it. These are all relatively minor and easy things to do. The last two are bit more involved.

Here is the locomotive in question (the T3P 10):



Here is what I'd like to change about it. The top arrow shows the 'joint' between the two drive shafts. It's just a rubber tube that produces inconsistent speeds between the two shafts due to its flexibility. The second arrow is the worm gear that I want to change to produce a taller ratio:

I have a couple of Peresvet cars, both freight and passenger. The quality is excellent. The only thing I do not like very much is how the couplers are attached to the body. Peresvet models are equipped with the BTTB standard couplers. However, they do neither use NEM standard coupler fasteners nor the old BTTB coupler fasteners. Instead, the couplers are permanently attached to the drawbar. So, it is difficult to exchange the couplers delivered with the model by any other types. Actually, the new Tillig couplers would look much better on Russian models since they look more like the prototype SA-3 couplers. Kadee's would look even better but are also even more difficult to apply. When looking at Russian model railroad webpages or magazines, it seems that the BTTB couplers are some kind of a general standard for Russian TT scale.

Joern

Have you had any experience with TT - Modell products? I have been looking at a couple of their passenger wagons to go with my T3P 10.

jpachl wrote: I also have ...and a ЧМ-32 diesel engine

I am Russian, and I am very glad that you like Russian prototypes.

But there is a little error. This locomotive is not "ЧМ-32", but "ЧМЭ­-2". It is not a number "3", but russian word "Э­".

"Э" means "Электрический", "electric" in Russian. It means that this locomotive is diesel-Electric

"М" means "Маневровый", "switcher" in Russian.

"Ч" means "Чехословацкий", i.e. "made in Czechoslovakia". These locomotives were built in Czechoslovakia and exported in the USSR.

So, "ЧМЭ-2" means "Diesel-electric switcher, made in Czechoslovakia, model 2"

The ЧМЭ­-2 locomotives were buit in 1959-1965 and were used on the Russian railways until 1988.

If you know Russian, look here:

http://www.maketmarket.ru/index.php?topic=894.0
http://www.maketmarket.ru/index.php?topic=895.msg7632

- Russian modelist made a kit for ЧМЭ­-3.

Thank you very much of that interesting information. In the BTTB catalogues, that engine is always wrongly called a ЧМ-32. You can find the wrong designation even on Russian model railway sites. For example, see #20 on this page:

http://www.parovoziki.ru/ttnut_lok.htm

We should try to make the correct designation better known among TT modelers.

Joern

Oh, i know the parovoziki.ru shop very well! I visited it.
Of course, it is an error on their site.

Here you can read an article in Wikipedia about this locomotive:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%9C%D0%AD2